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Perhaps it’s time we change these laws, and anybody creating a place to talk with others can’t have any rules banning anybody. Perhaps it’s time we pass laws th

Perhaps it’s time we change these laws, and anybody creating a place to talk with others can’t have any rules banning anybody. Perhaps it’s time we pass laws that force companies to abide by the first amendment.

michaelmrose 5y ago
You foster and shape a community by first telling people what you will accept and then by banning people whose behavior doesn't comport with standards. Here we sit on a functional community with such standards discussing this matter politely with one another wherein your argument would be to remove the standards that make this community worth chatting on. Just because you and are I reasonable doesn't mean the overarching internet is. It's manifestly not. It's extremely likely that a large part of the signal that makes this community valuable would depart if it was entirely filled with 10x as much noise. Let people make their own communities with different standards if they don't like this one.
- tekknik 5y ago
  > It's extremely likely that a large part of the signal that makes this community valuable would depart if it was entirely filled with 10x as much noise. What does this say about those participants who do leave? The entire point of different opinions is different points of view on the same subject. Those leaving simply because they don’t like the general narrative do no abide by this principle and probably shouldn’t have been in the community in the first place. Those leaving because they experienced daily abuse, that’s reasonable. I still don’t think they should leave, but instead grow thicker skin.
  - shadowgovt 5y ago
    Nobody's obligated to grow thicker skin to use Facebook. In fact, Facebook would prefer to not put that obligation on their users; it decreases adoption and retention numbers.
    - tekknik 5y ago
      And decreases the ability for people to hear harsh communications. You want to take over the US? Just stand right in the middle and start saying mean things.
  - michaelmrose 5y ago
    I don't want to read through 10x as much stupid, offensive, or otherwise bad content in order to read the same number of insightful content. Life is finite. Overwhelmingly the sort to get themselves banned are sharing crazy. I don't think I'm missing much or indeed anything. Why shouldn't I embrace less crazy in my life.
    - tekknik 5y ago
      > Overwhelmingly the sort to get themselves banned are sharing crazy. I don't think I'm missing much or indeed anything. Why shouldn't I embrace less crazy in my life. Because when someone is censoring you can't know if it's crazy or not. You just assume it is, like you are now.

michaelmrose 5y ago

You foster and shape a community by first telling people what you will accept and then by banning people whose behavior doesn't comport with standards. Here we sit on a functional community with such standards discussing this matter politely with one another wherein your argument would be to remove the standards that make this community worth chatting on. Just because you and are I reasonable doesn't mean the overarching internet is. It's manifestly not. It's extremely likely that a large part of the signal that makes this community valuable would depart if it was entirely filled with 10x as much noise. Let people make their own communities with different standards if they don't like this one.

tekknik 5y ago
> It's extremely likely that a large part of the signal that makes this community valuable would depart if it was entirely filled with 10x as much noise. What does this say about those participants who do leave? The entire point of different opinions is different points of view on the same subject. Those leaving simply because they don’t like the general narrative do no abide by this principle and probably shouldn’t have been in the community in the first place. Those leaving because they experienced daily abuse, that’s reasonable. I still don’t think they should leave, but instead grow thicker skin.
- shadowgovt 5y ago
  Nobody's obligated to grow thicker skin to use Facebook. In fact, Facebook would prefer to not put that obligation on their users; it decreases adoption and retention numbers.
  - tekknik 5y ago
    And decreases the ability for people to hear harsh communications. You want to take over the US? Just stand right in the middle and start saying mean things.
- michaelmrose 5y ago
  I don't want to read through 10x as much stupid, offensive, or otherwise bad content in order to read the same number of insightful content. Life is finite. Overwhelmingly the sort to get themselves banned are sharing crazy. I don't think I'm missing much or indeed anything. Why shouldn't I embrace less crazy in my life.
  - tekknik 5y ago
    > Overwhelmingly the sort to get themselves banned are sharing crazy. I don't think I'm missing much or indeed anything. Why shouldn't I embrace less crazy in my life. Because when someone is censoring you can't know if it's crazy or not. You just assume it is, like you are now.