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What for example? I genuinely haven't noticed any difference out of the box. I usually also don't like deviations, hence why I can't stand Emacs' Evil mode.

ur-whale 5y ago
There was quite a few, but off the top of my head: 1. searching for stuff with / jumps prematurely to destination, drives me nuts. 2. I have most "smart" features (auto-indent type stuff) disabled for C++ mode in my .vimrc, which works fine in vim but is completely ignored by neovim. It requires futzing around with post/pre loading of plugins, which - 1.who has the time to do these things 2. makes for incompatible init files. 3. does not read .vimrc by default and requires linking files to have a united init file I'm sure with enough work, I can get it to behave the way my poor old stiff brain expects, but - again - who has time for stuff like this. I might revisit neovim the day I have enough time on my hand to figure out how to install the whole tresitter shebang.
- alpaca128 5y ago
  Ah, coincidentally my preferences make the first two non-issues: I always set Vim to jump to the first search result in realtime because that lets me take a glance at another part of the file and then immediately jump back with Esc. So that way I didn't notice this apparently became a default setting in NeoVim. Which is still a weird thing and shouldn't happen imho. And I always have all kinds of smart features disabled in every situation because almost nothing annoys me more in software, and as far as I can tell nothing changed with the switch. The init.vim thing is definitely cumbersome when you just want to try it out, even though in the end it's just a symbolic link. > I might revisit neovim the day I have enough time on my hand to figure out how to install the whole tresitter shebang. I just did that last week, it's relatively straightforward with the guide in the vim-treesitter readme but requires the nightly build until NeoVim 0.5 releases. And if I'm not mistaken that future version will make it easier too.
  - maccam94 5y ago
    neovim 0.5 was released at the beginning of July :-)
    - ur-whale 5y ago
      "released" can I apt-get it ?
      - maccam94 5y ago
        There's no official upstream apt repository/ppa, but there is a package in debian experimental (an unofficial but often outdated ppa for ubuntu exists as well, but there's no v0.5.0 in the stable repository). You can also grab a self-contained binary (an appimage) from https://github.com/neovim/neovim/releases/download/v0.5.0/nvim.appimage https://github.com/neovim/neovim/releases/download/v0.5.0/nv... and then rename it to "neovim", mv it to /usr/local/bin, and chmod +x.
AlexSW 5y ago
If you need another, saving a file using sudo after opening not as sudo is much more annoying and the normal strategy in vim (which often includes `tee` but I prefer to use `mv`) doesn't work at all. I still use Neovim, but this is my main gripe. Broadly I like it a lot, for reasons others have covered.

ur-whale 5y ago

There was quite a few, but off the top of my head: 1. searching for stuff with / jumps prematurely to destination, drives me nuts. 2. I have most "smart" features (auto-indent type stuff) disabled for C++ mode in my .vimrc, which works fine in vim but is completely ignored by neovim. It requires futzing around with post/pre loading of plugins, which - 1.who has the time to do these things 2. makes for incompatible init files. 3. does not read .vimrc by default and requires linking files to have a united init file I'm sure with enough work, I can get it to behave the way my poor old stiff brain expects, but - again - who has time for stuff like this. I might revisit neovim the day I have enough time on my hand to figure out how to install the whole tresitter shebang.

alpaca128 5y ago
Ah, coincidentally my preferences make the first two non-issues: I always set Vim to jump to the first search result in realtime because that lets me take a glance at another part of the file and then immediately jump back with Esc. So that way I didn't notice this apparently became a default setting in NeoVim. Which is still a weird thing and shouldn't happen imho. And I always have all kinds of smart features disabled in every situation because almost nothing annoys me more in software, and as far as I can tell nothing changed with the switch. The init.vim thing is definitely cumbersome when you just want to try it out, even though in the end it's just a symbolic link. > I might revisit neovim the day I have enough time on my hand to figure out how to install the whole tresitter shebang. I just did that last week, it's relatively straightforward with the guide in the vim-treesitter readme but requires the nightly build until NeoVim 0.5 releases. And if I'm not mistaken that future version will make it easier too.
- maccam94 5y ago
  neovim 0.5 was released at the beginning of July :-)
  - ur-whale 5y ago
    "released" can I apt-get it ?
    - maccam94 5y ago
      There's no official upstream apt repository/ppa, but there is a package in debian experimental (an unofficial but often outdated ppa for ubuntu exists as well, but there's no v0.5.0 in the stable repository). You can also grab a self-contained binary (an appimage) from https://github.com/neovim/neovim/releases/download/v0.5.0/nvim.appimage https://github.com/neovim/neovim/releases/download/v0.5.0/nv... and then rename it to "neovim", mv it to /usr/local/bin, and chmod +x.

AlexSW 5y ago

If you need another, saving a file using sudo after opening not as sudo is much more annoying and the normal strategy in vim (which often includes `tee` but I prefer to use `mv`) doesn't work at all. I still use Neovim, but this is my main gripe. Broadly I like it a lot, for reasons others have covered.