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UMG Seems to Think It Copyrighted the Moon

20 points by TimTheTinker 5y ago

dennisblue 5y ago
More examples of the tech monster shitting on our rights and apologizing to no one. Remember this when the shills astroturfing the planet try to convince you corruption isn't real.
bmitc 5y ago
In the terminology of Stafford Beer, “AI” driven systems are creating untold amounts of variety that are not handled. Of course, the media groups are to blame, but so are the technology companies. They’ve created systems that don’t need humans to operate, but they need humans to oversee, but there aren’t enough humans. This is unhandled variety born at the alter of scale.
musicale 5y ago
Free the Moon!
fire 5y ago
In a similar vein, I literally had a shirt up on amazon called "shrug emoji" that was just a `¯\_(ツ)_/¯` on a plain shirt, and it was taken down recently (after being up since 2017 without issue), because apparently a company owns the trademark to the word "emoji" now. (Unfortunately amazon merch's contestation process requires you to submit documentation that you have license for the offending trademark, with no ability to claim misidentification or nonapplicability)
8jef 5y ago
It's always wildly entertaining and equally demoralizing to see people trapped in this very deceptive, primitive and privately owned technological nighmarish mess created for the sole purpose of sucking the life out of them. Why aren't they opting out? Why are they being voluntarily captive of that madhouse's nuthouse / kinda oxygen deprived fishbowl? Why aren't they seing that bright orange flashing target painted on their very soul? In the line of what is offered to drug and alcohol addicts, I predict a coming widespread adoption of tailor made 12-step programs for the media addicted. "It's now been 48 months since I've acted on a notification. One day at a time."
- Aerroon 5y ago
  You can't opt out. The problem is with how copyright works. Copyright holders will just force the rules on you again at your new platform (or get the platform taken down).
- rektide 5y ago
  to opt out is to say "i will stop communicating with the world". you either join the massive networks, or you are stranded, alone, undiscoverable, forever. some folks call these "high switching costs", which is fair. but i dont think it really emphasizes the existential peril of leaving the central hubs of connected online spaces. it doesnt go far enough to emphasize that you either do keep your prrssence on the major networks, or you are a no one. we all have to be able & willing to switch off. into a new system, where thise we opt to follow will not be switch offable by their network, by their hosting provider. we neee to interconnect broadly, across systems, and allow each other to re-present in new hosts, new domains, new means, as the circumstances of how they stay connected/online change.
  - MathMonkeyMan 5y ago
    Do we need to be discovered on the internet? This computer that I'm typing into in order to respond to your comment is not the world. The world is outside. I discovered a variety of people yesterday when I went for a walk in a crowded park. That is the world.
    - rektide 5y ago
      take your "go live in a barrel" "stop participating in society" "advice" to somewhere offline & unconnected please. it's rude & out of touch. the internet has value and telling people to walk away, to not connect, not be found online, is insulting & belittling. this person was doing great & neat things. they deserve to be able to connect with the world. the world is better for it's chance to connect with them. "just dont" is a snotty terrible demeaning attitude to take. please take your own advice and take this anti-connective attitude elsewhere, off the internet. i really really wish every discussion on social networking & online hosting wasn't punctuated by this retrogressive anti-connected (what seems to me like) trolling. how you folks be so blind, so callous, so unwilling to see how great & awesome it is that people can share, that people can connect & communicate, that we can exchange so many awesome human moments? it's is unfathomable to me. it's so neat that folks can share, can make connections, that the power of the mind can expand so much further, and can roam so much more greatly. turning that off sounds like hell.
h2odragon 5y ago
too bad they backed off the claim. That would be a good one to take to court. Imagine them pulling out evidence to show they faked the moon landings.
sen 5y ago
I had a video with 8 digit views get taken down and a copyright strike applied to my account because a “spiritual healer” said they own the copyright to the word “spirit” in any and all uses, and good old Google/YouTube sided with them after appeal. I’d only used the word in the title (it was part of the name of a ship) and the video was just a video I had personally taken of the ship on a test day. I was authorised to do the video by the ship owners, and there was no talking or music. I understand it’s a difficult issue to scan and check all the content, but when it goes to review and they STILL side with the bullshit fake claims? Bleh. My hatred of Google and the modern internet is immeasurable these days.
- breakingcups 5y ago
  It's only difficult because Google doesn't want to spend any real money on it, because it would cripple the worth of the service to them.

20 points by TimTheTinker 5y ago

More examples of the tech monster shitting on our rights and apologizing to no one. Remember this when the shills astroturfing the planet try to convince you corruption isn't real.

bmitc 5y ago

In the terminology of Stafford Beer, “AI” driven systems are creating untold amounts of variety that are not handled. Of course, the media groups are to blame, but so are the technology companies. They’ve created systems that don’t need humans to operate, but they need humans to oversee, but there aren’t enough humans. This is unhandled variety born at the alter of scale.

musicale 5y ago

Free the Moon!

fire 5y ago

In a similar vein, I literally had a shirt up on amazon called "shrug emoji" that was just a `¯\_(ツ)_/¯` on a plain shirt, and it was taken down recently (after being up since 2017 without issue), because apparently a company owns the trademark to the word "emoji" now. (Unfortunately amazon merch's contestation process requires you to submit documentation that you have license for the offending trademark, with no ability to claim misidentification or nonapplicability)

8jef 5y ago

It's always wildly entertaining and equally demoralizing to see people trapped in this very deceptive, primitive and privately owned technological nighmarish mess created for the sole purpose of sucking the life out of them. Why aren't they opting out? Why are they being voluntarily captive of that madhouse's nuthouse / kinda oxygen deprived fishbowl? Why aren't they seing that bright orange flashing target painted on their very soul? In the line of what is offered to drug and alcohol addicts, I predict a coming widespread adoption of tailor made 12-step programs for the media addicted. "It's now been 48 months since I've acted on a notification. One day at a time."

Aerroon 5y ago
You can't opt out. The problem is with how copyright works. Copyright holders will just force the rules on you again at your new platform (or get the platform taken down).
rektide 5y ago
to opt out is to say "i will stop communicating with the world". you either join the massive networks, or you are stranded, alone, undiscoverable, forever. some folks call these "high switching costs", which is fair. but i dont think it really emphasizes the existential peril of leaving the central hubs of connected online spaces. it doesnt go far enough to emphasize that you either do keep your prrssence on the major networks, or you are a no one. we all have to be able & willing to switch off. into a new system, where thise we opt to follow will not be switch offable by their network, by their hosting provider. we neee to interconnect broadly, across systems, and allow each other to re-present in new hosts, new domains, new means, as the circumstances of how they stay connected/online change.
- MathMonkeyMan 5y ago
  Do we need to be discovered on the internet? This computer that I'm typing into in order to respond to your comment is not the world. The world is outside. I discovered a variety of people yesterday when I went for a walk in a crowded park. That is the world.
  - rektide 5y ago
    take your "go live in a barrel" "stop participating in society" "advice" to somewhere offline & unconnected please. it's rude & out of touch. the internet has value and telling people to walk away, to not connect, not be found online, is insulting & belittling. this person was doing great & neat things. they deserve to be able to connect with the world. the world is better for it's chance to connect with them. "just dont" is a snotty terrible demeaning attitude to take. please take your own advice and take this anti-connective attitude elsewhere, off the internet. i really really wish every discussion on social networking & online hosting wasn't punctuated by this retrogressive anti-connected (what seems to me like) trolling. how you folks be so blind, so callous, so unwilling to see how great & awesome it is that people can share, that people can connect & communicate, that we can exchange so many awesome human moments? it's is unfathomable to me. it's so neat that folks can share, can make connections, that the power of the mind can expand so much further, and can roam so much more greatly. turning that off sounds like hell.

h2odragon 5y ago

too bad they backed off the claim. That would be a good one to take to court. Imagine them pulling out evidence to show they faked the moon landings.

sen 5y ago

I had a video with 8 digit views get taken down and a copyright strike applied to my account because a “spiritual healer” said they own the copyright to the word “spirit” in any and all uses, and good old Google/YouTube sided with them after appeal. I’d only used the word in the title (it was part of the name of a ship) and the video was just a video I had personally taken of the ship on a test day. I was authorised to do the video by the ship owners, and there was no talking or music. I understand it’s a difficult issue to scan and check all the content, but when it goes to review and they STILL side with the bullshit fake claims? Bleh. My hatred of Google and the modern internet is immeasurable these days.

breakingcups 5y ago
It's only difficult because Google doesn't want to spend any real money on it, because it would cripple the worth of the service to them.