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When I first tried out TikTok a while back, the initial set of videos I was 'seeded' with included a great deal of really shocking animal abuse videos (dogs tha
by rozab 5y ago
When I first tried out TikTok a while back, the initial set of videos I was 'seeded' with included a great deal of really shocking animal abuse videos (dogs that had been buried in mud or concrete and are 'rescued', lots of animals being cooked or eaten alive, etc). I didn't interact with anything in the app but as these made me pause in shock, it lead me down a rabbit hole of them. Just another example of how optimising for attention is a horrible idea.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y agoAnimals being eaten is not unethical. If anything killing strays and eating them is actually better since the animal is not just being killed for pest control. We westerners just like to think eating dogs is somehow evil when you look at the last hundred years because of war, it was way more common than you'd think. I personally wouldn't advocate eating them, but, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
- kayodelycaon 5y agoI think eating an animal before you killed it is just a bit barbaric…
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y agoThe Japanese do it with fish and other sea creatures...
- rewq4321 5y agoHow could you possibly think that this makes it ethical? This is a troll-level comment, but somehow I think you're being earnest. Please sit back and reflect on what you're saying here. If it's because you don't think that animals can suffer, then read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_consciousness#Cambridge_Declaration_on_Consciousness https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_consciousness#Cambridge...
- jazzyjackson 5y agodon't animals also feel pain when they're killed hours before being eaten? i mean i'm not advocating for eating live squid but i really can't see how the alternative is better for the squid.
- rewq4321 5y agoYou are absolutely right that both are terrible. That said, being eaten alive is undoubtably a slower, more painful death in most cases. Both are unnecessary - plant-based diets can prevent a lot of suffering.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y agoI am aware of and do think animals can suffer. Ethically you should kill them before eating them. What I'm saying is the Japanese do it with fish and other sea creatures but yet that must mame it okay cause it's just fish or lobster. But at the end of the day it really does not matter. If youve been desensitized to it in your life as a nonwesterner, who are we to demand they change their culture?
- happytoexplain 5y agoYou're addressing a theoretical person who is OK with eating sea life alive, but not with eating land life alive. Clearly those people exist, but I don't see why you're assuming that's the context here.
- rewq4321 5y ago> What I'm saying is the Japanese do it with fish and other sea creatures but yet that must mame it okay cause it's just fish or lobster. I don't know why you're assuming that sea creatures don't suffer. There may be a miscommunication here. > who are we to demand they change their culture Would you apply the same reasoning to a culture that practices human sacrifice, for example? Or that enslaves humans? The "it's their (personal) choice" argument breaks down when you realise that the preferences/interests of the victims matter too. Their suffering matters.