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What kind of submarines don't kill?

by FridayoLeary 5y ago

gpm 5y ago
Research submarines?
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chrisseaton 5y ago
'Hunter Killer', or just 'Killer', is a different role to 'Subsurface Ballistic Nuclear', so not all submarines are 'Killer'. The 'largely around coastal waters' (littoral) should hint at this.
- denton-scratch 5y ago
  "Killer" subs are designed to "kill" other subs. They're distinguished from nuclear missile subs, and from subs used mainly for scouting and transport.
  - chrisseaton 5y ago
    > "Killer" subs are designed to "kill" other subs. They're distinguished from nuclear missile subs Isn't that what I said? > and from subs used mainly for scouting and transport For actual navies (as opposed to for example drug smugglers) scouting and transport (which is super-niche) is done by hunter killer submarines - they aren't a separate thing.
teekert 5y ago
Why can’t AIP create silent non-killer submarines? I imagine if you’re studying life in the deep ocean, a silent submarine is nice.
- gpm 5y ago
  AIP isn't quieter than a batter powered submarine, it's quieter than a nuclear powered submarine. Unless you're doing ridiculously long research dives (in which case batteries don't suffice), or you care about noise on the surface (where you would use a traditional air burning diesel engine to recharge) it doesn't seem like this brings any advantages.
  - teekert 5y ago
    So, for submarines, it's a killer only technology. That's a first.
bell-cot 5y ago
Perhaps one designed for tapping into undersea cables, stealthy deployment of Special Operations teams in hostile waters, and such? (Yes, if of any size, such a sub would probably have some torpedoes or other lethal weapons. But for military naming purposes, a few "hopefully it'll never actually need this thing..." weapons hardly qualify as it as a "killer".)
trothamel 5y ago
I don't believe a ballistic nuclear missile submarine has ever killed anyone intentionally, and I think everyone hopes one never will.

What kind of submarines don't kill?

gpm 5y ago

Research submarines?

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chrisseaton 5y ago

'Hunter Killer', or just 'Killer', is a different role to 'Subsurface Ballistic Nuclear', so not all submarines are 'Killer'. The 'largely around coastal waters' (littoral) should hint at this.

denton-scratch 5y ago
"Killer" subs are designed to "kill" other subs. They're distinguished from nuclear missile subs, and from subs used mainly for scouting and transport.
- chrisseaton 5y ago
  > "Killer" subs are designed to "kill" other subs. They're distinguished from nuclear missile subs Isn't that what I said? > and from subs used mainly for scouting and transport For actual navies (as opposed to for example drug smugglers) scouting and transport (which is super-niche) is done by hunter killer submarines - they aren't a separate thing.

teekert 5y ago

Why can’t AIP create silent non-killer submarines? I imagine if you’re studying life in the deep ocean, a silent submarine is nice.

gpm 5y ago
AIP isn't quieter than a batter powered submarine, it's quieter than a nuclear powered submarine. Unless you're doing ridiculously long research dives (in which case batteries don't suffice), or you care about noise on the surface (where you would use a traditional air burning diesel engine to recharge) it doesn't seem like this brings any advantages.
- teekert 5y ago
  So, for submarines, it's a killer only technology. That's a first.

bell-cot 5y ago

Perhaps one designed for tapping into undersea cables, stealthy deployment of Special Operations teams in hostile waters, and such? (Yes, if of any size, such a sub would probably have some torpedoes or other lethal weapons. But for military naming purposes, a few "hopefully it'll never actually need this thing..." weapons hardly qualify as it as a "killer".)

trothamel 5y ago

I don't believe a ballistic nuclear missile submarine has ever killed anyone intentionally, and I think everyone hopes one never will.