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Question, anyone knows a proven industrial grade usb-stick ~16G for server 24/7 usage?

by nix23 5y ago

chasil 5y ago
Look for "SLC USB flash" on eBay. Definitely confirm the part specs with the OEM, and maybe test one to confirm longevity. https://www.ebay.com/itm/201270936497?hash=item2edcaec3b1:g:whAAAOSwhh5To7Qt https://www.ebay.com/itm/201270936497?hash=item2edcaec3b1:g:...
- nix23 5y ago
  Hey thanks for the tip, i knew about SLC's but i meant something that is really proven, but also small so you can putt it into pizza-form-factor servers. Something like that: https://www.atpinc.com/de/products/industrial-ssds-usb-drive https://www.atpinc.com/de/products/industrial-ssds-usb-drive But available and more then 2GB ;) EDIT: Nice i found something https://www.swissbit.com/de/produkte/produktsuche/produkte/ https://www.swissbit.com/de/produkte/produktsuche/produkte/
  - chasil 5y ago
    I see this listing for Oracle/Sun SLC media. When you say "really proven," do you mean a lifetime of 100k writes, as is normally expected of SLC devices? p.s. I've bought SwissBit before, and had no problems. https://www.ebay.com/itm/165027448860?hash=item266c67081c:g:7AEAAOSwOYlhHwOv https://www.ebay.com/itm/165027448860?hash=item266c67081c:g:...
    - nix23 5y ago
      >When you say "really proven," I mean something like: We used them for every esxi servers since ~5 years and never had a problem with it. I just have a really hard time trusting any usb-stick. But thanks the Oracle hint/link is a good one.
      - chasil 5y ago
        Note that the Oracle flash drives are used, and likely won't have the full 100k remaining lifetime. "This item was removed from a working machine."
      - ComputerGuru 5y ago
        I was not going to comment but then you clarified what you were looking for and I can say “we’ve used Sandisk Extreme Pro USB 3.0 in 32GB - 128GB in every ESXi server for probably over 5 years without any failures.” I’ve heard they released a bad SKU that they then retracted - I think it may have been the first 3.1 variant, but it’s no longer for sale. The only problem is they are bulky, but I believe there is good reason for that. Does that help?
        nix23 5y ago
        >Does that help? Yesyes..thanks for the tip, will check them out...or like 10 of them.
      - numpad0 5y ago
        Useful keyword is DWPD(drive writes per day) but I don’t think there are USB sticks rated that way.
- gruez 5y ago
  >Definitely confirm the part specs with the OEM >https://www.ebay.com/itm/201270936497?hash=item2edcaec3b1:g https://www.ebay.com/itm/201270936497?hash=item2edcaec3b1:g:... That's especially true for the listing you linked. ;) According to one source[1] the drive is actually MLC, not SLC. [1] https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5549/lexar-jumpdrive-p10-64gb-usb-3-0-flash-drive-review/index.html https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5549/lexar-jumpdrive-p10-6...
eric__cartman 5y ago
I would use a decent SSD in a USB to SATA enclosure as a boot drive in a server were I can't fit an additional internal drive.
- nix23 5y ago
  No place in a pizzabox for that.
  - hallway_monitor 5y ago
    There should be room to velcro an M2 enclosure to the front of even a 1U box
    - nix23 5y ago
      Yeah no, customers are not happy with velcro tape in a esxi server ;)
KindOne 5y ago
Some people posted a few companies in this post from April 2018: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16776344 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16776344 If you want to read the entire thing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16775768 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16775768 "Raspberry Pi microSD card performance comparison" - April 2018
upofadown 5y ago
Swissbit does a lot of that sort of thing. A bit pricey.

Question, anyone knows a proven industrial grade usb-stick ~16G for server 24/7 usage?

by nix23 5y ago

Question, anyone knows a proven industrial grade usb-stick ~16G for server 24/7 usage?

Look for "SLC USB flash" on eBay. Definitely confirm the part specs with the OEM, and maybe test one to confirm longevity. https://www.ebay.com/itm/201270936497?hash=item2edcaec3b1:g:whAAAOSwhh5To7Qt https://www.ebay.com/itm/201270936497?hash=item2edcaec3b1:g:...

nix23 5y ago
Hey thanks for the tip, i knew about SLC's but i meant something that is really proven, but also small so you can putt it into pizza-form-factor servers. Something like that: https://www.atpinc.com/de/products/industrial-ssds-usb-drive https://www.atpinc.com/de/products/industrial-ssds-usb-drive But available and more then 2GB ;) EDIT: Nice i found something https://www.swissbit.com/de/produkte/produktsuche/produkte/ https://www.swissbit.com/de/produkte/produktsuche/produkte/
- chasil 5y ago
  I see this listing for Oracle/Sun SLC media. When you say "really proven," do you mean a lifetime of 100k writes, as is normally expected of SLC devices? p.s. I've bought SwissBit before, and had no problems. https://www.ebay.com/itm/165027448860?hash=item266c67081c:g:7AEAAOSwOYlhHwOv https://www.ebay.com/itm/165027448860?hash=item266c67081c:g:...
  - nix23 5y ago
    >When you say "really proven," I mean something like: We used them for every esxi servers since ~5 years and never had a problem with it. I just have a really hard time trusting any usb-stick. But thanks the Oracle hint/link is a good one.
    - chasil 5y ago
      Note that the Oracle flash drives are used, and likely won't have the full 100k remaining lifetime. "This item was removed from a working machine."
    - ComputerGuru 5y ago
      I was not going to comment but then you clarified what you were looking for and I can say “we’ve used Sandisk Extreme Pro USB 3.0 in 32GB - 128GB in every ESXi server for probably over 5 years without any failures.” I’ve heard they released a bad SKU that they then retracted - I think it may have been the first 3.1 variant, but it’s no longer for sale. The only problem is they are bulky, but I believe there is good reason for that. Does that help?
      - nix23 5y ago
        >Does that help? Yesyes..thanks for the tip, will check them out...or like 10 of them.
    - numpad0 5y ago
      Useful keyword is DWPD(drive writes per day) but I don’t think there are USB sticks rated that way.
gruez 5y ago
>Definitely confirm the part specs with the OEM >https://www.ebay.com/itm/201270936497?hash=item2edcaec3b1:g https://www.ebay.com/itm/201270936497?hash=item2edcaec3b1:g:... That's especially true for the listing you linked. ;) According to one source[1] the drive is actually MLC, not SLC. [1] https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5549/lexar-jumpdrive-p10-64gb-usb-3-0-flash-drive-review/index.html https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/5549/lexar-jumpdrive-p10-6...

eric__cartman 5y ago

I would use a decent SSD in a USB to SATA enclosure as a boot drive in a server were I can't fit an additional internal drive.

nix23 5y ago
No place in a pizzabox for that.
- hallway_monitor 5y ago
  There should be room to velcro an M2 enclosure to the front of even a 1U box
  - nix23 5y ago
    Yeah no, customers are not happy with velcro tape in a esxi server ;)

KindOne 5y ago

Some people posted a few companies in this post from April 2018: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16776344 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16776344 If you want to read the entire thing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16775768 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16775768 "Raspberry Pi microSD card performance comparison" - April 2018

upofadown 5y ago

Swissbit does a lot of that sort of thing. A bit pricey.