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I have much less of an issue with big tech companies than most people seem to. That said, it drives me nuts when people talk about a company's values. Apple, Go

I have much less of an issue with big tech companies than most people seem to. That said, it drives me nuts when people talk about a company's values. Apple, Google, Amazon, Walmart etc have no values. Talking about them havibg values is like talking about their hair colour. Apple isnt a person, its a corporation. It makes money not life choices. It only cares about money it cannot feel empathy or guilt or generosity or anger.

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Tagbert 5y ago
The people that make up a corporation can, collectively, establish values for that corporation. This arises through corporate culture and can be ratified by management. Many large corporations document and promote a specific set of values within the company. Corporations know that the values that they adopt affect how their customers and employees see the corporation and that impacts their loyalty to the corporation. If a corporation compromises those values, that will have a negative impact. This is analogous to how society responds to individuals who express values and either follow those values or depart from them. Sometimes the values can be in conflict where the choices will all have negative impacts and that can be tricky to navigate.
- wutbrodo 5y ago
  Seriously. I hate to be a dick, but I don't get how it's often possible to believe something that stupid (despite the fact that many, many people do, especially on HN). This model of corporations' decision as incapable of being influenced by anything but maximizing profit in a vacuum is trivially belied by examples like this[1]. (To head off the inevitable-but-nonsensical response that averting an employee revolt helps the bottom line...that's trivially true, but turns the statement into a tautological one, defining a "corporation" as some formless void that somehow doesn't include anyone making the decisions). [1] https://www.nytimes.com https://www.nytimes.com › google-pentagon-project-maven

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Tagbert 5y ago

The people that make up a corporation can, collectively, establish values for that corporation. This arises through corporate culture and can be ratified by management. Many large corporations document and promote a specific set of values within the company. Corporations know that the values that they adopt affect how their customers and employees see the corporation and that impacts their loyalty to the corporation. If a corporation compromises those values, that will have a negative impact. This is analogous to how society responds to individuals who express values and either follow those values or depart from them. Sometimes the values can be in conflict where the choices will all have negative impacts and that can be tricky to navigate.

wutbrodo 5y ago
Seriously. I hate to be a dick, but I don't get how it's often possible to believe something that stupid (despite the fact that many, many people do, especially on HN). This model of corporations' decision as incapable of being influenced by anything but maximizing profit in a vacuum is trivially belied by examples like this[1]. (To head off the inevitable-but-nonsensical response that averting an employee revolt helps the bottom line...that's trivially true, but turns the statement into a tautological one, defining a "corporation" as some formless void that somehow doesn't include anyone making the decisions). [1] https://www.nytimes.com https://www.nytimes.com › google-pentagon-project-maven