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Because these statements are logically connected in the form of an argument and even an example is giving.

by quonn 5y ago

BoorishBears 5y ago
You literally just confirmed my comment. You understand that they're not saying Germans are xenophobic because they prefer a language, but that it was just a single example. That they are two separate concepts and one is just a small part of the other. If I didn't know better I'd think you forced more of a connection than there was to build a strawman argument.
- quonn 5y ago
  It‘s perfectly normal to use words like „and“ and still make an argument. This is done all the time in articles, it‘s not math but language. There was an assertion, then another assertion and then an example related (but not equal) to the first assertion. Sandwiching things like that can at best be called misleading, but I stand by my understanding which is that a connection between language and xenophobia was made. Other replies by the same person inside this thread confirm this as well („Germans that know English refusing to speak to people that only know English and Pashto is xenophobic.“) So he made a connection between language and xenophobia. Can we agree on this basic fact?
  - BoorishBears 5y ago
    "This is language not math" is exactly my point, you're trying to paint this as me looking at a technicality or something, it's literally misconstruing someone's very simple words They made a connection and it's not the connection you implied... > It would never cross my mind to think of a country as xenophobic because they speak their own language. This person never said Germany is xenophobic just because they speak their own language, it's insulting people's intelligence to pretend they did. This isn't HN-style "haha got you on the mathematical sum of words" this is having the basic decency to reply to what was said, not what you're pretending was said. Maybe not everyone is capable of that.

Because these statements are logically connected in the form of an argument and even an example is giving.

by quonn 5y ago

Because these statements are logically connected in the form of an argument and even an example is giving.

You literally just confirmed my comment. You understand that they're not saying Germans are xenophobic because they prefer a language, but that it was just a single example. That they are two separate concepts and one is just a small part of the other. If I didn't know better I'd think you forced more of a connection than there was to build a strawman argument.

quonn 5y ago
It‘s perfectly normal to use words like „and“ and still make an argument. This is done all the time in articles, it‘s not math but language. There was an assertion, then another assertion and then an example related (but not equal) to the first assertion. Sandwiching things like that can at best be called misleading, but I stand by my understanding which is that a connection between language and xenophobia was made. Other replies by the same person inside this thread confirm this as well („Germans that know English refusing to speak to people that only know English and Pashto is xenophobic.“) So he made a connection between language and xenophobia. Can we agree on this basic fact?
- BoorishBears 5y ago
  "This is language not math" is exactly my point, you're trying to paint this as me looking at a technicality or something, it's literally misconstruing someone's very simple words They made a connection and it's not the connection you implied... > It would never cross my mind to think of a country as xenophobic because they speak their own language. This person never said Germany is xenophobic just because they speak their own language, it's insulting people's intelligence to pretend they did. This isn't HN-style "haha got you on the mathematical sum of words" this is having the basic decency to reply to what was said, not what you're pretending was said. Maybe not everyone is capable of that.