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It's C. In terms of if it's bad? shrug. With a smaller heat sink, the chips are almost certainly going to be hotter (dunno how much.. at least 3-5 degrees, may
by icegreentea2 5y ago
It's C.
In terms of if it's bad? shrug. With a smaller heat sink, the chips are almost certainly going to be hotter (dunno how much.. at least 3-5 degrees, maybe up to 10?).
Does that matter? Tech youtubers love to emphasize cooling - which is fair, I think it's important, but I also think it's overdone.
From the end-user standpoint, the question is does this meaningfully increase the rate that their unit thermal throttles (the PS5 uses boost just like modern laptops/PCs... the xbox and ps4 did not) in like... 95 (or whatever threshold) percentile shitty (so like stuffed in a cabinet with air flow being impinged) environments.
Because of boost variability, it's gonna be kinda annoying to do true side by side performance comparisons. At the very least, you'd need to swap cooling solutions on the same silicon. No idea how feasible that is with the PS5 design.
- kjaftaedi 5y agoI think for the end user the primary concern is not performance, but the potential fan noise. If the performance goes up or down, end users might not even notice, but if the fan is constantly kicking in and being too loud too often, more people will be concerned.
- ErneX 5y agoAgreed, this would be the main concern, since it's one the things people hated about the PS4 and PS4 Pro (being really loud). I don't think Sony would want a regression there either.
- icegreentea2 5y agoThat's fair. I think the fan noise consideration is interesting because it's possible (depending on fan and load characteristics) to run the fan more (as in % duty on at "high" speed) and not meaningfully effect the perception enjoyment since it's often the fan noise changing (not the fan noise itself... though obviously this depends on how obnoxious the fan noise) that is annoying, not the fan noise itself. I don't own any of these consoles, so I can't really say first hand, but for my Xbox One (the og one), I just know that I notice when the fans kick in... and then I just get absorbed into the game (and game noise).
- salamandersauce 5y agoIn the brief testing Austin Evans did in his YouTube video comparing the two, the new model was actually a touch quieter and a few degrees warmer. Of course that may not hold in all scenarios but it's something to note.
- rasz 5y agoThe final step missing is checking the framerates - those systems use dynamic clocks and can potentially throttle. Sony claims "PS5 consoles process the same workloads with the same performance level in any environment, no matter what the ambient temperature may be", but you never know until you test, like PS3 "random" number generator.
- freemint 5y agoI would argue it's technically a difference in °K not °C.
- graftak 5y agoKelvin has no degrees sign (°) because it’s an absolute unit. https://sciencenotes.org/why-there-is-no-degree-in-kelvin-temperature/ https://sciencenotes.org/why-there-is-no-degree-in-kelvin-te...
- freemint 5y agoThanks, in my native language I only heard it being called degree Kelvin. However you are right.
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- rowanG077 5y agoTech YouTubers love to emphasize cooling because most if not all laptops are thermally limited.
- fomine3 5y agoAlmost all laptop performance is constrained by heat, heat makes user's palm hot, and its fan must be near the user. So it's fair to focus on heat for laptop. But gaming console is designed to not to thermal throttled and no boost (or little boost), and console is some feet away from user, so the heat importance is different.