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The DoD used to hire Afghans who could speak English to train soldiers in certain scenarios. Common instances of this included civil engineers in AFG who could

The DoD used to hire Afghans who could speak English to train soldiers in certain scenarios. Common instances of this included civil engineers in AFG who couldn’t get licensed here, that drove Uber and spent a few months training Americans somewhere in the Louisiana woods to make ends meet. Such a waste.

baybal2 5y ago
> Common instances of this included civil engineers in AFG who couldn’t get licensed here, Welcome to reality of 3rd world immigrants to the West. Near complete untransferabbility of career, skills, and credentials.
- AdrianB1 5y ago
  In IT the skills are very easy to transfer, it is an area where formal education and certification matter the least. For doctors there is a path for getting board certifications, not easy but it is done a lot. For lawyers there is no career transferability because law is the most heterogenous domain around the globe and expertise in a country is not applicable in other jurisdictions. Most skilled labor like plumbers, electricians or constructions can transfer most of the knowledge, having to do adjustments for local practices and regulations. Not extremely easy, but doable.
- BoorishBears 5y ago
  My father had no trouble transferring his education into getting his PhD. My mother's skills carried her to a doctorate in nursing My uncle's medical skills carried over well enough for him to be an orthopedic surgeon My aunt's carried well enough to run her own medical clinic in Norway Do you think they're learning to count sticks or something to get their degrees in other countries? Why wouldn't thinks as internal as learned skills transfer? Credentials might not map 1:1 but they're also backed by something... everything you learned to earn them
  - ausudhz 5y ago
    It's not transferable 1:1, some college / university are not even recognized abroad. I had a friend of mine from Thailand that couldn't get recognized her master degree in marketing in an European country. So she enrolled again to go through the same stuff she learned just to get the valid degree spendable in the county
    - BoorishBears 5y ago
      My comment is saying they're not transferable 1:1 right there... Even between first world countries they're not transferable 1:1, even within single countries they're not transferable 1:1 But the reality is your friend had an incredible head start going over the same stuff she learned. There's this narrative that high educated people form 3rd world countries all have to end up in menial jobs because somehow a doctor/lawyer/engineer/tradesperson from a 3rd world country is not knowledgeable enough to do anything else by 1st world standards, and it's more of a meme than anything.
      - ausudhz 5y ago
        > But the reality is your friend had an incredible head start going over the same stuff she learned. I wouldn't consider an head start to do again your degree once you've done it already in your home country
        BoorishBears 5y ago
        You wouldn't consider knowing the entire curriculum well enough to have already earned a degree a head start? Do you know what a head start is?
        ausudhz 5y ago
        Head start in the uni maybe, not head start in life. And also the program would be in a language that you never learned as first language and you don't even master it so yes, is not an head start at all to me.
NonContro 5y ago
In many cases the qualifications are fraudulent, bestowed based on bribery or family connections. Those with legitimate qualifications can always re-complete the education in the new country.

baybal2 5y ago

> Common instances of this included civil engineers in AFG who couldn’t get licensed here, Welcome to reality of 3rd world immigrants to the West. Near complete untransferabbility of career, skills, and credentials.

AdrianB1 5y ago
In IT the skills are very easy to transfer, it is an area where formal education and certification matter the least. For doctors there is a path for getting board certifications, not easy but it is done a lot. For lawyers there is no career transferability because law is the most heterogenous domain around the globe and expertise in a country is not applicable in other jurisdictions. Most skilled labor like plumbers, electricians or constructions can transfer most of the knowledge, having to do adjustments for local practices and regulations. Not extremely easy, but doable.
BoorishBears 5y ago
My father had no trouble transferring his education into getting his PhD. My mother's skills carried her to a doctorate in nursing My uncle's medical skills carried over well enough for him to be an orthopedic surgeon My aunt's carried well enough to run her own medical clinic in Norway Do you think they're learning to count sticks or something to get their degrees in other countries? Why wouldn't thinks as internal as learned skills transfer? Credentials might not map 1:1 but they're also backed by something... everything you learned to earn them
- ausudhz 5y ago
  It's not transferable 1:1, some college / university are not even recognized abroad. I had a friend of mine from Thailand that couldn't get recognized her master degree in marketing in an European country. So she enrolled again to go through the same stuff she learned just to get the valid degree spendable in the county
  - BoorishBears 5y ago
    My comment is saying they're not transferable 1:1 right there... Even between first world countries they're not transferable 1:1, even within single countries they're not transferable 1:1 But the reality is your friend had an incredible head start going over the same stuff she learned. There's this narrative that high educated people form 3rd world countries all have to end up in menial jobs because somehow a doctor/lawyer/engineer/tradesperson from a 3rd world country is not knowledgeable enough to do anything else by 1st world standards, and it's more of a meme than anything.
    - ausudhz 5y ago
      > But the reality is your friend had an incredible head start going over the same stuff she learned. I wouldn't consider an head start to do again your degree once you've done it already in your home country
      - BoorishBears 5y ago
        You wouldn't consider knowing the entire curriculum well enough to have already earned a degree a head start? Do you know what a head start is?
        ausudhz 5y ago
        Head start in the uni maybe, not head start in life. And also the program would be in a language that you never learned as first language and you don't even master it so yes, is not an head start at all to me.

NonContro 5y ago

In many cases the qualifications are fraudulent, bestowed based on bribery or family connections. Those with legitimate qualifications can always re-complete the education in the new country.