That's a good point. I had my first semester in Scheme, and while it was fun, the biggest project was a Sudoku solver with the sudoku directly in the program. W

That's a good point. I had my first semester in Scheme, and while it was fun, the biggest project was a Sudoku solver with the sudoku directly in the program. We didn't even do file IO. On the other hand, we studied functional programming with Javascript while using it to build a webpage, something that was concrete. We learned domain and tuple relational calculus with SQL and PHP, and built a small website, again something concrete. We had the choice between logical and graphics programming. I took logical, where we did some Prolog, and solved a few enigmas with it. In the graphics programming, people used C++ with a library and made a cool 3D scene with trees, a river and a few objects. All of that was made without libraries (except for the C++ graphics stuff), so the usual "ecosystem problem" that plague small languages compared to the big ones wasn't even a problem here. But I still finished college with a clear divide between "language you use for work" and "language you use for research probably?". That was before knowing about package managment, frameworks and ecosystems. It's hard to not be biased after that.