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A permanent resident immigrant to the US is expected to have savings or a family network that can support them. The days of showing up to the border with the cl

by yardie 5y ago

A permanent resident immigrant to the US is expected to have savings or a family network that can support them. The days of showing up to the border with the close on your back and $50 in your pocket are long over. And exactly what jobs are reserved for Americans? Only ones I know of are DoD or security clearance.

mgh2 5y ago
The secret of companies nowadays is that discrimination occurs behind the curtains. When you are applying for jobs they will ask you "do you require sponsorship now or in the future?". Although it is illegal to discriminate based on country of origin, companies do it all the time - at the least, they will outright reject a candidate based on this criteria and at the worst, they string them along on years of abuse/slavery through an H1B and lower salary compared to Americans. Nobody wants to do extra paper-work and run through the hassle (laws) of hiring a foreigner if the risk is higher than hiring an American - if they do, they better get a better deal. Ask HR, STEM international students, someone on H1B. There are lucky ones, especially CS majors, but the majority is abused by the system due to the power imbalance. This is unknown to the average American, you don't know how much the balance has been tilted in your favor from the start. > The days of showing up to the border with the close on your back and $50 in your pocket are long over. You seem blind to the realities. Americans complain too much because they can, millions of people are just happy to have a way to survive. I did not even touch upon illegal immigrants who live in the shadows/fear, working quietly for a better future...
- yardie 5y ago
  Country of origin and immigration status are not the same thing. A company cannot discriminate based on origin. Immigration status is something else. Companies are legally required to ask if you are eligible to work in the country. If your skills are in demand enough they can pursue a visa for you. If not, you’re just another cog in the machine. They are free to find someone who can meet the requirement.
  - mgh2 5y ago
    I bet HR prepared the legal language to avoid discrimination charges. Even if the immigration status is legal, Americans have an unfair advantage just because they were born in the right place. Americans live in a privileged bubble, especially the tech sector. Remember tech wanted to increase the quota for H1Bs? It was a pro-immigration marketing stunt - because it is cheaper for them to abuse more workers. Progressives/liberals fight for minorities' rights, but who cares about immigrants, even if they are the backbone of your economy? Tech doesn't care, they profit from it. Tech (indeed, American enterprise) has always been a marketing show for the rich. Side note: Elon's hack in to the US as a Canadian > Aware it would be easier to enter the United States from Canada,[23] Musk applied for a Canadian passport through his Canadian-born mother. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
- HobbseanMess 5y ago
  And why should Americans care about the plight of others? Tired of this argument tbh. Americans should care about themselves first and foremost.
  - mgh2 5y ago
    Because Americans have a warped view of the world and this affects the policies you vote for, actually hurting rather than helping yourself due to a lack of perspective and bubble mentality. https://medium.com/p/free-will-a-rich-fairy-tale-4fecf8095812 https://medium.com/p/free-will-a-rich-fairy-tale-4fecf809581... Btw, I don't blame Americans on this, they might actually be the victim of their own creation - the tech industry has been brainwashing the American public for the last decade. Note: Your policies also affect the entire world due to your power stance internationally.

by yardie 5y ago

mgh2 5y ago

The secret of companies nowadays is that discrimination occurs behind the curtains. When you are applying for jobs they will ask you "do you require sponsorship now or in the future?". Although it is illegal to discriminate based on country of origin, companies do it all the time - at the least, they will outright reject a candidate based on this criteria and at the worst, they string them along on years of abuse/slavery through an H1B and lower salary compared to Americans. Nobody wants to do extra paper-work and run through the hassle (laws) of hiring a foreigner if the risk is higher than hiring an American - if they do, they better get a better deal. Ask HR, STEM international students, someone on H1B. There are lucky ones, especially CS majors, but the majority is abused by the system due to the power imbalance. This is unknown to the average American, you don't know how much the balance has been tilted in your favor from the start. > The days of showing up to the border with the close on your back and $50 in your pocket are long over. You seem blind to the realities. Americans complain too much because they can, millions of people are just happy to have a way to survive. I did not even touch upon illegal immigrants who live in the shadows/fear, working quietly for a better future...

yardie 5y ago
Country of origin and immigration status are not the same thing. A company cannot discriminate based on origin. Immigration status is something else. Companies are legally required to ask if you are eligible to work in the country. If your skills are in demand enough they can pursue a visa for you. If not, you’re just another cog in the machine. They are free to find someone who can meet the requirement.
- mgh2 5y ago
  I bet HR prepared the legal language to avoid discrimination charges. Even if the immigration status is legal, Americans have an unfair advantage just because they were born in the right place. Americans live in a privileged bubble, especially the tech sector. Remember tech wanted to increase the quota for H1Bs? It was a pro-immigration marketing stunt - because it is cheaper for them to abuse more workers. Progressives/liberals fight for minorities' rights, but who cares about immigrants, even if they are the backbone of your economy? Tech doesn't care, they profit from it. Tech (indeed, American enterprise) has always been a marketing show for the rich. Side note: Elon's hack in to the US as a Canadian > Aware it would be easier to enter the United States from Canada,[23] Musk applied for a Canadian passport through his Canadian-born mother. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk
HobbseanMess 5y ago
And why should Americans care about the plight of others? Tired of this argument tbh. Americans should care about themselves first and foremost.
- mgh2 5y ago
  Because Americans have a warped view of the world and this affects the policies you vote for, actually hurting rather than helping yourself due to a lack of perspective and bubble mentality. https://medium.com/p/free-will-a-rich-fairy-tale-4fecf8095812 https://medium.com/p/free-will-a-rich-fairy-tale-4fecf809581... Btw, I don't blame Americans on this, they might actually be the victim of their own creation - the tech industry has been brainwashing the American public for the last decade. Note: Your policies also affect the entire world due to your power stance internationally.