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I'm not precisely sure why you are getting downvoted, but worth noting the abuse is well-documented. [1] [2] [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/arch

I'm not precisely sure why you are getting downvoted, but worth noting the abuse is well-documented. [1] [2] [1] https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/05/the-world-still-spins-around-male-genius/559925/ https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/05/th... [2] https://twitter.com/marykarrlit/status/992735594060148737 https://twitter.com/marykarrlit/status/992735594060148737

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maroonblazer 5y ago
Perhaps it's because the parent can't distinguish between the person and the work. Show me someone who's produced remarkable output and hasn't done shitty things. The 'hype' is about the work, not the person.
- nuclearnice3 5y ago
  > Show me someone who's produced remarkable output and hasn't done shitty things. Paul Graham?
  - mistermann 5y ago
    Another way of looking at it: what was DFW in a position to (plausibly) do, versus what he did, as compared to Paul Graham?
    - nuclearnice3 5y ago
      I don't follow your comment. DFW had a girlfriend and allegedly tried to push her out of a moving car. No accusations against pg. Except hnbad who vaguely writes "Debatable" in this thread.
      - mistermann 5y ago
        It's the perspective of roughly "maximizing ones possible achievements". Paul Graham is rich, connected, and inluential, to what degree (in percentage terms) does he use this to make the world a better place?
        nuclearnice3 5y ago
        Gotcha. Those who are rich, connected, and influential could all seriously consider our impacts on the world. I don't see failing to use your wealth well and trying to push someone out of a car as equivalent "shitty things."
        colinmhayes 5y ago
        I do. In fact, pushing someone out of a car only hurts one person. Not utilizing your resources for good hurts thousands, maybe even, millions.
        mistermann 5y ago
        Especially when "your" wealth is fairly arbitrary, and hardly democratically decided.
  - hnbad 5y ago
    Debatable.
elcapitan 5y ago
The "well-documented" seems to be a disgruntled ex-lover talking about a dead person who can't comment on it anymore, and then other people writing what the disgruntled ex-lover said, or is there more to it?
- nuclearnice3 5y ago
  I'm no expert, but I think you are correct. The "well-documented" is Karr talking about Wallace and then other people writing what Karr said. That's often the case with domestic violence. Adrienne Miller’s memoir of her time at Esquire contains some description of DFW being a jerk, but not physically abusive.

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maroonblazer 5y ago

Perhaps it's because the parent can't distinguish between the person and the work. Show me someone who's produced remarkable output and hasn't done shitty things. The 'hype' is about the work, not the person.

nuclearnice3 5y ago
> Show me someone who's produced remarkable output and hasn't done shitty things. Paul Graham?
- mistermann 5y ago
  Another way of looking at it: what was DFW in a position to (plausibly) do, versus what he did, as compared to Paul Graham?
  - nuclearnice3 5y ago
    I don't follow your comment. DFW had a girlfriend and allegedly tried to push her out of a moving car. No accusations against pg. Except hnbad who vaguely writes "Debatable" in this thread.
    - mistermann 5y ago
      It's the perspective of roughly "maximizing ones possible achievements". Paul Graham is rich, connected, and inluential, to what degree (in percentage terms) does he use this to make the world a better place?
      - nuclearnice3 5y ago
        Gotcha. Those who are rich, connected, and influential could all seriously consider our impacts on the world. I don't see failing to use your wealth well and trying to push someone out of a car as equivalent "shitty things."
        colinmhayes 5y ago
        I do. In fact, pushing someone out of a car only hurts one person. Not utilizing your resources for good hurts thousands, maybe even, millions.
        mistermann 5y ago
        Especially when "your" wealth is fairly arbitrary, and hardly democratically decided.
- hnbad 5y ago
  Debatable.

elcapitan 5y ago

The "well-documented" seems to be a disgruntled ex-lover talking about a dead person who can't comment on it anymore, and then other people writing what the disgruntled ex-lover said, or is there more to it?

nuclearnice3 5y ago
I'm no expert, but I think you are correct. The "well-documented" is Karr talking about Wallace and then other people writing what Karr said. That's often the case with domestic violence. Adrienne Miller’s memoir of her time at Esquire contains some description of DFW being a jerk, but not physically abusive.