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The summary is the lock downs resulted in +4,155 excess deaths under 65 for 2020? Thats pretty damning for the government and a confirmation of what anti-lock
by codeecan 5y ago
The summary is the lock downs resulted in +4,155 excess deaths under 65 for 2020?
Thats pretty damning for the government and a confirmation of what anti-lock down protesters have been saying since last year.
If they let under 65s free while sheltering the vulnerable and keeping mask and distance protocol would there be 4x the covid deaths, probably not.
And we could have avoided the ~$400+ billion dollar deficit.
- chrisfosterelli 5y agoIt's not immediately obvious that the excess deaths are lockdown related deaths. There's also a growing overdose epidemic among that age group, for example.
- codeecan 5y agoIt's well supported that the combination of lock down isolation[1] in addition to the free CERB money resulted in the spike of drug abuse / suicide deaths[2]. [1] https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-coronavirus-is-killing-thousands-so-is-the-lockdown/ https://www.aei.org/op-eds/the-coronavirus-is-killing-thousa... [2] https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cerb-pandemic-opioid-addiction-overdose-1.5606188 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cerb-pandemic-opioid-addict... ... And I don't believe we have even begun to see the psychological / developmental effects of isolation and distance learning on young kids.
- nomdep 5y agoBut we can see the impact of those who has become orphans because of COVID. I prefer your armchair problems any day
- atomicUpdate 5y agoThe results of the study are that more orphans were created by the lockdowns than covid.
- nomdep 5y agoThe study doesn’t say those who die because of their addiction during lockdown were parents.
- DanBC 5y agoNo, it's absolutely not well supported that deaths by suicide have increased. I mean, from your own link: > We don’t have data that the lockdowns are causing more suicides,
- dcolkitt 5y agoI would guess that people who are socially isolated and unemployed are more likely to engage in drug abuse.
- betwixthewires 5y agoI believe that increasing trend in overdose deaths was accounted for in the excess mortality calculation used in the article.
- driverdan 5y agoThat's not what it says at all. This is preliminary and no conclusions have been made. It could be that 4155 COVID deaths were not properly tested and incorrectly categorized.
- sct202 5y agoYeah, restrictions in Canada varied by region and shifted on and off, so it would take a lot more analysis to say one way or the other.
- MatteoFrigo 5y agoI disagree. The paper goes into some details explaining how many deaths are due to alcohol abuse vs. poisoning etc. They also have a list of conditions that they associate with the various causes of death. For example, if somebody dies of alcoholic gastritis, they classify the death as alcohol-related. Now, like all estimates, I am sure there are errors, but it's not like they haven't done their homework. There isn't enough data in the paper to blame the lockdown per se, however. E.g., it could be that the media fear-mongering is driving people crazy more than usual. There is no way to tell.
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- nickthemagicman 5y agoThere could actually be way less covid deaths due to improper testing. I'm glad people are finally admitting that there could be problems with covid testing.