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Just another example of how Delta is tearing its way through the under-vaccinated parts of the country. But it's important to remember it isn't just "red states

Just another example of how Delta is tearing its way through the under-vaccinated parts of the country. But it's important to remember it isn't just "red states" that are susceptible, but really any conservative region, even in deep blue states. Meanwhile in NY, where nearly all restrictions have been lifted for months, the Delta wave has barely registered and the rate of new cases has flattened if not started to decline in recent weeks.

Vrondi 5y ago
This wave began in the south (and on the west coast), but it has been creeping up the map in recent weeks. You can see it spreading into southwestern PA now. The wave simply hasn't gotten to NY yet. It is coming.
- standardUser 5y ago
  That sounds like you made it up off the top of your head. Care to show your work? In reality, Delta has been in NY for months... "Delta Now 97% of COVID Cases But Hospitalizations, Infection Rates Drop" https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/delta-now-97-of-nyc-covid-cases-but-hospitalizations-are-down-as-transmission-rates-drop-for-2nd-straight-week/3243859/ https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/delta-now-97-of-...
jrockway 5y ago
The Northeast seems to be doing better than the rest of the country, but it's still not zero risk. The first major breakthrough outbreaks were in the Northeast, and we're definitely not 100% vaccinated up here. (There isn't even a vaccine that's approved for 100% of the population!) Just looking out my window in Brooklyn, people in my neighborhood walk around outside with masks on. I gave that up a couple months ago, but I definitely feel like I'm on the losing side of that convention and people are probably judging me. (I still wear a mask indoors, of course, including in the common areas of my apartment building. The risk of transmission outdoors seems pretty low to me.) I think it's very dangerous to point fingers and say "haha, that can't happen to us". In the early days of the pandemic, that's what people said about New York. And they were right for several months -- that first wave that hit New York hard barely registered across the country. But now, those people are getting hit. COVID is spreading, and there is nothing stopping another variant -- perhaps one that doesn't care about vaccines at all, or one that kills kids. Now is not the time to glibly celebrate victory, or point the finger and laugh "look at how much worse those other states are than us". 600,000 Americans are dead from this pandemic, and the end is not in sight.
- standardUser 5y ago
  Hundreds of bars and restaurants are packed literally everyday all over NYC with unmasked patrons and that's been happening for months now. And while kid are mostly unvaccinated, they don't tend to be in restaurants much these days. Among adults, something like 80% are now vaccinated in NYC (71-86% depending on borough). Combine that with the fact that Delta makes up almost every case of COVID in NY now, it's hard to see who is even left for the virus to infect.
UncleOxidant 5y ago
Oregon is a blue state, but it has some very large red areas and those areas are getting hit very hard by delta now.

Vrondi 5y ago

This wave began in the south (and on the west coast), but it has been creeping up the map in recent weeks. You can see it spreading into southwestern PA now. The wave simply hasn't gotten to NY yet. It is coming.

standardUser 5y ago
That sounds like you made it up off the top of your head. Care to show your work? In reality, Delta has been in NY for months... "Delta Now 97% of COVID Cases But Hospitalizations, Infection Rates Drop" https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/delta-now-97-of-nyc-covid-cases-but-hospitalizations-are-down-as-transmission-rates-drop-for-2nd-straight-week/3243859/ https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/delta-now-97-of-...

jrockway 5y ago

The Northeast seems to be doing better than the rest of the country, but it's still not zero risk. The first major breakthrough outbreaks were in the Northeast, and we're definitely not 100% vaccinated up here. (There isn't even a vaccine that's approved for 100% of the population!) Just looking out my window in Brooklyn, people in my neighborhood walk around outside with masks on. I gave that up a couple months ago, but I definitely feel like I'm on the losing side of that convention and people are probably judging me. (I still wear a mask indoors, of course, including in the common areas of my apartment building. The risk of transmission outdoors seems pretty low to me.) I think it's very dangerous to point fingers and say "haha, that can't happen to us". In the early days of the pandemic, that's what people said about New York. And they were right for several months -- that first wave that hit New York hard barely registered across the country. But now, those people are getting hit. COVID is spreading, and there is nothing stopping another variant -- perhaps one that doesn't care about vaccines at all, or one that kills kids. Now is not the time to glibly celebrate victory, or point the finger and laugh "look at how much worse those other states are than us". 600,000 Americans are dead from this pandemic, and the end is not in sight.

standardUser 5y ago
Hundreds of bars and restaurants are packed literally everyday all over NYC with unmasked patrons and that's been happening for months now. And while kid are mostly unvaccinated, they don't tend to be in restaurants much these days. Among adults, something like 80% are now vaccinated in NYC (71-86% depending on borough). Combine that with the fact that Delta makes up almost every case of COVID in NY now, it's hard to see who is even left for the virus to infect.

UncleOxidant 5y ago

Oregon is a blue state, but it has some very large red areas and those areas are getting hit very hard by delta now.