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> End to end encryption has always meant transport encryption not encryption at rest. Sure, but if someone in the middle wants to store, then they don’t have a
by amarshall 5y ago
> End to end encryption has always meant transport encryption not encryption at rest.
Sure, but if someone in the middle wants to store, then they don’t have anything unencrypted to store. Ultimately it all depends what one defines the “ends” as. In general for backup, both ends are the user. For chat, the sender and recipient. Apple is not an end, but a provider in the middle.
- d1sxeyes 5y agoUser A messages user B using iMessages. User B screenshots all of those messages and uploads them unencrypted to a random FTP server. Now replace the random FTP server with iCloud. Or Google Drive. Does that change the nature of the messaging between User A and User B? I would say it doesn't. In fact, WhatsApp does basically the same.
- amarshall 5y agoNo, but it means the backup is not end to end.