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These Apple privacy ads [1] are not aging well and they aren't even old. [1] https://youtu.be/lHcf9ZkJ28o https://youtu.be/lHcf9ZkJ28o

smoldesu 5y ago
My personal favorite is the 'what happens on your iPhone, stays on your iPhone' one.
- zepto 5y ago
  That hasn’t changed.
  - smoldesu 5y ago
    Well, now it's being hashed and logged by Apple, by default.
    - threeseed 5y ago
      Only if you use iCloud Photo Library i.e. you choose to have your photos hosted by Apple. In which case Apple is no different to every other cloud company which scans for CSAM.
  - kitkat_new 5y ago
    in being not true? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/android-sends-20x-more-data-to-google-than-ios-sends-to-apple-study-says/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/android-sends-20x-mo...
    - zepto 5y ago
      Weird - that link has no obvious relevance.
threeseed 5y ago
iCloud Backup not being encrypted is not new and necessary. Apple's ads will age fine since they invest far more effort in keeping your data private than every other OEM. Even their CSAM effort which blew up is far better than other companies who are doing server-side scanning.
- franczesko 5y ago
  > they invest far more effort in keeping your data private than every other OEM. Especially in China... Apple's privacy claim sounds silly, knowing that they gave up on protecting users data where it truly matters - against the government abuse and focus mostly on the least dangerous threat (if threat at all) - online advertising.
  - ziml77 5y ago
    If Apple doesn't obey China's laws, they can't operate there. Also, why do you want to force your ideals onto Chinese people? Flip it around. If China forced their ideals on the US, would you find that okay? Is the difference that we're right and they're not? Objectively? Is it that they commit human rights atrocities? The US has done the same, just typically outside of its own borders.
    - shigawire 5y ago
      The mental gymnastics to try to assert that the right to privacy is bad.
  - shuckles 5y ago
    Apple operates the only legal E2E encrypted messaging system in the country, and I’m sorry but your characterization of online tracking and advertising as harmless is at best an opinion.
    - franczesko 5y ago
      What harm does it do?

smoldesu 5y ago

My personal favorite is the 'what happens on your iPhone, stays on your iPhone' one.

zepto 5y ago
That hasn’t changed.
- smoldesu 5y ago
  Well, now it's being hashed and logged by Apple, by default.
  - threeseed 5y ago
    Only if you use iCloud Photo Library i.e. you choose to have your photos hosted by Apple. In which case Apple is no different to every other cloud company which scans for CSAM.
- kitkat_new 5y ago
  in being not true? https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/android-sends-20x-more-data-to-google-than-ios-sends-to-apple-study-says/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/03/android-sends-20x-mo...
  - zepto 5y ago
    Weird - that link has no obvious relevance.

threeseed 5y ago

iCloud Backup not being encrypted is not new and necessary. Apple's ads will age fine since they invest far more effort in keeping your data private than every other OEM. Even their CSAM effort which blew up is far better than other companies who are doing server-side scanning.

franczesko 5y ago
> they invest far more effort in keeping your data private than every other OEM. Especially in China... Apple's privacy claim sounds silly, knowing that they gave up on protecting users data where it truly matters - against the government abuse and focus mostly on the least dangerous threat (if threat at all) - online advertising.
- ziml77 5y ago
  If Apple doesn't obey China's laws, they can't operate there. Also, why do you want to force your ideals onto Chinese people? Flip it around. If China forced their ideals on the US, would you find that okay? Is the difference that we're right and they're not? Objectively? Is it that they commit human rights atrocities? The US has done the same, just typically outside of its own borders.
  - shigawire 5y ago
    The mental gymnastics to try to assert that the right to privacy is bad.
- shuckles 5y ago
  Apple operates the only legal E2E encrypted messaging system in the country, and I’m sorry but your characterization of online tracking and advertising as harmless is at best an opinion.
  - franczesko 5y ago
    What harm does it do?