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It should be socially acceptable to live in a tent. There shouldn't be a big jump between renting a room and living in a tent. People who live in tents shouldn'

by 838812052807016 5y ago

It should be socially acceptable to live in a tent. There shouldn't be a big jump between renting a room and living in a tent. People who live in tents shouldn't be seen as some kind of underclass with the label "homeless". There should be a continuum with painless mobility between a tent, a room, an apartment, a house. Everyone should be expected to follow the law. The system should work for all people, all the way from 0 to infinity.

finfinfin 5y ago
I am not sure people complain about the tents. There is a lot more that comes with that. Tents block public areas and sidewalks. There is a lot of trash accumulated around tents. There are usually no bathrooms or showers around which leads to urine and poop, unpleasant smells, dangerous trash like needles, etc.
- 838812052807016 5y ago
  We need a socially acceptable mode of habitation which is less expensive than renting a room. Tents seem like the obvious and established answer. What I had in mind is that we need to solve those accompanying problems in order to make living in tents socially acceptable. Tents show up on public areas and sidewalks because there are no better established places for them. Trash accumulates around tents because there is no established garbage collection procedure like there is for buildings. Maybe the solution is some kind of campground with a low fee.
  - sershe 5y ago
    Do we? I don't think we do anything cheaper than an SRO. At the very least, tents in public areas (or on private land!) are not the answer. In any case, we have these campground solutions already. They are called "campgrounds". They are just not an efficient use of urban land, although sometimes they also exist close to cities, e.g. some in Hawaii iirc. Mainly though, this is a strawman. Tents themselves are not the biggest problem when they don't e.g. block a sidewalk, piece of public infrastructure, or a road. The problem is piles of garbage, needles, dumping sewage into lakes and streams, increase in crime, not-yet-criminal or never-prosecuted safety concerns (e.g. someone I know can no longer take an obvious bike trail to where they're going because of some close calls with aggressive barely human campers).

finfinfin 5y ago

I am not sure people complain about the tents. There is a lot more that comes with that. Tents block public areas and sidewalks. There is a lot of trash accumulated around tents. There are usually no bathrooms or showers around which leads to urine and poop, unpleasant smells, dangerous trash like needles, etc.

838812052807016 5y ago
We need a socially acceptable mode of habitation which is less expensive than renting a room. Tents seem like the obvious and established answer. What I had in mind is that we need to solve those accompanying problems in order to make living in tents socially acceptable. Tents show up on public areas and sidewalks because there are no better established places for them. Trash accumulates around tents because there is no established garbage collection procedure like there is for buildings. Maybe the solution is some kind of campground with a low fee.
- sershe 5y ago
  Do we? I don't think we do anything cheaper than an SRO. At the very least, tents in public areas (or on private land!) are not the answer. In any case, we have these campground solutions already. They are called "campgrounds". They are just not an efficient use of urban land, although sometimes they also exist close to cities, e.g. some in Hawaii iirc. Mainly though, this is a strawman. Tents themselves are not the biggest problem when they don't e.g. block a sidewalk, piece of public infrastructure, or a road. The problem is piles of garbage, needles, dumping sewage into lakes and streams, increase in crime, not-yet-criminal or never-prosecuted safety concerns (e.g. someone I know can no longer take an obvious bike trail to where they're going because of some close calls with aggressive barely human campers).