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Without reading the post I assume it's talking about iCloud backup (which is on by default) backing up your raw messages with just an Apple encryption key? That
by ummonk 5y ago
Without reading the post I assume it's talking about iCloud backup (which is on by default) backing up your raw messages with just an Apple encryption key? That's well documented and makes sense as a default functionality - average users would be too prone to losing their data if data weren't backed up without E2EE.
- jackjeff 5y agoYes. iCloud backups are the easiest way to get the messages in clear text. But honestly you don’t need it. Even though iMessage is end to end encrypted, Apple mediates the key exchange. It’d be trivial for them to do a man in the middle attack by saying the other guy has a new key.
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- WA 5y agoWhy not read the post? Because you are technically wrong. It’s about iCloud backups containing the decryption keys. iMessages are backed up encrypted.
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- ummonk 5y agoAh right. Caveat though that that applies if Messages is set to use iCloud. In that case iCloud backup backs up the decryption key to ensure you don't inadvertently lose access to the messages because they're end to end encrypted. If Messages is not toggled in iCloud, then as long as iCloud backup is toggled, it will directly back up the raw messages - encrypting with an Apple stored key just as for any other non end to end encrypted data.
- nostromo 5y agoEncrypted backups should be a user option at the very least.