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One thing I noticed very quickly. There isn't actually anything really novel about covid or any of the vaccines. Covid19 is pretty much gob standard coronaviru

One thing I noticed very quickly. There isn't actually anything really novel about covid or any of the vaccines. Covid19 is pretty much gob standard coronavirus which which there are already four which commonly infect humans. One of which uses the same receptor even. Covid doesn't have any weird tricks. Other than no one has any immunity to it, and it can cause systemic infections. Because it uses the ACE2 receptor which are found in a lot of organs and tissues. The vaccines on the other hand are also gob standard vaccines. So there isn't any reason either to expect any of them to cause unusual problems that haven't been seen before. And none of the usual problems have appeared. The real thing here is the choice really isn't vaccine or no vaccine. It's you get vaccine or you get covid. The risk from the vaccine if you can call it that is orders of magnitude less than getting covid. Another consideration is while the vaccines don't show any effect on fertility or pregnancy, covid absolutely shows increased morbidity and mortality in pregnant women.

toast0 5y ago
> The vaccines on the other hand are also gob standard vaccines. They're really not. These are the first mass produced mRNA vaccines and I believe the first mRNA vaccines in large clinical trials or the first mass produced and administered modified adenovirus vaccines (although some earlier modified adenovirus vaccines did go through fairly large trials). Of course, given the large numbers of doses administered and the small number of severe side effects reported, it seems pretty safe, but if one is worried about side effects that take longer to show up, one has to wait until millions of people have had it for a long time (whatever your time period is). We've got about a 9-12 month head start on data for long term side effects of covid-19 though and that looks to me a lot worse. And, we have pretty good evidence the vaccines do reduce the risk of severe illness and death, so I don't like being ill or dying, so it was an easy choice for me when it became available.

toast0 5y ago

> The vaccines on the other hand are also gob standard vaccines. They're really not. These are the first mass produced mRNA vaccines and I believe the first mRNA vaccines in large clinical trials or the first mass produced and administered modified adenovirus vaccines (although some earlier modified adenovirus vaccines did go through fairly large trials). Of course, given the large numbers of doses administered and the small number of severe side effects reported, it seems pretty safe, but if one is worried about side effects that take longer to show up, one has to wait until millions of people have had it for a long time (whatever your time period is). We've got about a 9-12 month head start on data for long term side effects of covid-19 though and that looks to me a lot worse. And, we have pretty good evidence the vaccines do reduce the risk of severe illness and death, so I don't like being ill or dying, so it was an easy choice for me when it became available.