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I have to remind myself that Life will survive climate change. Humans may not but Life will. I really find it so crushingly bleak at times. I know that nature

I have to remind myself that Life will survive climate change. Humans may not but Life will. I really find it so crushingly bleak at times. I know that nature is cruel and indifferent. And that's sort of attaching intent rather than it being more just what it is, a product of physics. There's going to be some rough years ahead.

stavros 5y ago
Well, you know, if someone gives you a nice toy and you break it, maybe you don't deserve it.
- yabatopia 5y ago
  But in this case, his parents broke the toy, not him.
  - stavros 5y ago
    The child is humanity in general.
  - rfrey 5y ago
    Every generation thinks things would be different if they had been in charge.
- sennight 5y ago
  Who is this "someone" you're talking about, Mother Gaia? Reframing justice from a humancentric perspective to one more in line with the natural state is something that would immediately yield very entertaining results, as the people most likely to propose it would most deeply regret having gotten their way.
  - stavros 5y ago
    It doesn't matter to the point at all who the someone is. Change it to "if you randomly found a nice toy" and the point remains exactly the same.
    - sennight 5y ago
      It certainly does matter, it drastically shifts who (or what) determines "you don't deserve it."
Ericson2314 5y ago
I hope each intelligent civ doesn't make the same mistake until the sun starts growing into a red giant.
mark_l_watson 5y ago
+1 Also, with new evidence from space-based telescopes, instead of there being potentially tens of thousands of life friendly planets in the Universe (a Nature article from several years ago), I saw recently an estimation that there might be trillions of planets that are life friendly. If we mess up our planet, I believe that the Universe is teaming with life. When I was a kid, I thought that life like we have on the earth was unique, a view I no longer hold.

stavros 5y ago

Well, you know, if someone gives you a nice toy and you break it, maybe you don't deserve it.

yabatopia 5y ago
But in this case, his parents broke the toy, not him.
- stavros 5y ago
  The child is humanity in general.
- rfrey 5y ago
  Every generation thinks things would be different if they had been in charge.
sennight 5y ago
Who is this "someone" you're talking about, Mother Gaia? Reframing justice from a humancentric perspective to one more in line with the natural state is something that would immediately yield very entertaining results, as the people most likely to propose it would most deeply regret having gotten their way.
- stavros 5y ago
  It doesn't matter to the point at all who the someone is. Change it to "if you randomly found a nice toy" and the point remains exactly the same.
  - sennight 5y ago
    It certainly does matter, it drastically shifts who (or what) determines "you don't deserve it."

Ericson2314 5y ago

I hope each intelligent civ doesn't make the same mistake until the sun starts growing into a red giant.

mark_l_watson 5y ago

+1 Also, with new evidence from space-based telescopes, instead of there being potentially tens of thousands of life friendly planets in the Universe (a Nature article from several years ago), I saw recently an estimation that there might be trillions of planets that are life friendly. If we mess up our planet, I believe that the Universe is teaming with life. When I was a kid, I thought that life like we have on the earth was unique, a view I no longer hold.