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Except the aliotos cannot get elected. I'm happy to believe in conspiracies but if they control so much as you say, why can't they get their own elected.

nathanvanfleet 5y ago
Do they try to get elected? why would you need to get elected when you can control any candidate, or control things regardless of who is in power???
- iammisc 5y ago
  Yes. Angela alioto, daughter of ex mayor Sam alioto has campaigned as a conservative democrat and loses spectacularly. There is no basis to claim they run the city. This is just mindless conspiracy.
akomtu 5y ago
Elected officials are a lot like C-suite: they run the company, but they don't own it. Owners sit on the board and rarely seek publicity.
- iammisc 5y ago
  Except Angela alioto has run unsuccessfully for mayor multiple times. The family seeks political power but does not get it. This is just ungrounded conspiracy
  - akomtu 5y ago
    Just like some board members like to get hands dirty and run things themselves. Musk is this type. But that's an exception.
    - iammisc 5y ago
      Oh okay so basically your argument is 'my premise is certainly true and the counter example you provided is simply an exception that I didn't mention'
cft 5y ago
I think you are confused about what upper class (old money) is. They don't work. They do charity and art. Politicians work for them.
- iammisc 5y ago
  Except, the aliotos run unsuccessfully for office. Claiming the politicians work for them is just conspiracy. Clearly they do not exert complete control in the way you claim.
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Hermitian909 5y ago
Being a member of one of those families is no guarantee that you will be supported in search for office by the wider group or even your own family. My impression is the prevailing opinion within the families should not be attempting to hold office directly and that Angela's bid was not widely supported even by many of her relatives, let alone the wider group we're discussing.
- iammisc 5y ago
  So who is the alioto power broker if not the child of the last prominent alioto, Sam alioto? If the 'family' has power as a single unit, who is in charge. This is baseless conspiracy meant to distract from the real people who control the occupant of the office of mayor .. the residents of San Francisco

nathanvanfleet 5y ago

Do they try to get elected? why would you need to get elected when you can control any candidate, or control things regardless of who is in power???

iammisc 5y ago
Yes. Angela alioto, daughter of ex mayor Sam alioto has campaigned as a conservative democrat and loses spectacularly. There is no basis to claim they run the city. This is just mindless conspiracy.

akomtu 5y ago

Elected officials are a lot like C-suite: they run the company, but they don't own it. Owners sit on the board and rarely seek publicity.

iammisc 5y ago
Except Angela alioto has run unsuccessfully for mayor multiple times. The family seeks political power but does not get it. This is just ungrounded conspiracy
- akomtu 5y ago
  Just like some board members like to get hands dirty and run things themselves. Musk is this type. But that's an exception.
  - iammisc 5y ago
    Oh okay so basically your argument is 'my premise is certainly true and the counter example you provided is simply an exception that I didn't mention'

cft 5y ago

I think you are confused about what upper class (old money) is. They don't work. They do charity and art. Politicians work for them.

iammisc 5y ago
Except, the aliotos run unsuccessfully for office. Claiming the politicians work for them is just conspiracy. Clearly they do not exert complete control in the way you claim.

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Hermitian909 5y ago

Being a member of one of those families is no guarantee that you will be supported in search for office by the wider group or even your own family. My impression is the prevailing opinion within the families should not be attempting to hold office directly and that Angela's bid was not widely supported even by many of her relatives, let alone the wider group we're discussing.

iammisc 5y ago
So who is the alioto power broker if not the child of the last prominent alioto, Sam alioto? If the 'family' has power as a single unit, who is in charge. This is baseless conspiracy meant to distract from the real people who control the occupant of the office of mayor .. the residents of San Francisco