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> My office has a janitorial staff. Why don't public spaces? San Francisco spends tens of millions of dollar a year cleaning its streets. https://www.business

> My office has a janitorial staff. Why don't public spaces? San Francisco spends tens of millions of dollar a year cleaning its streets. https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-spent-54-million-street-cleanup-2018-9 https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-spent-54-milli... > Too many people in public parks? Claw back more public park space... The issue isn't the number of people in public parks. The issue is that people are using public parks (and other public spaces) to set up encampments, which is not the purpose of these public spaces. In fact, this infringes on the rights of the people who want to use these spaces for legal purposes.

amanaplanacanal 5y ago
Unless you have a better idea as to where these people should go, just saying that they shouldn’t be there isn’t very useful.
- betwixthewires 5y ago
  That's not true, acknowledging the problem is the first step to coming up with a solution.
webmaven 5y ago
> The issue isn't the number of people in public parks. The issue is that people are using public parks (and other public spaces) to set up encampments, which is not the purpose of these public spaces. In fact, this infringes on the rights of the people who want to use these spaces for legal purposes. All right, where do you think the encampments should be set up?
- LurkingPenguin 5y ago
  I find it interesting that you apparently have the belief that such encampments should or need to exist.
  - webmaven 5y ago
    All right, what do you think the people populating such camps should do? Where do you think they should go?
    - LurkingPenguin 5y ago
      Who are these people? Why are they homeless? Where are their families? Do they want to not be homeless? What is preventing them from not being homeless? Before you try to answer the question of what they should do and where should they go, I think you realistically need to answer these questions.
      - webmaven 5y ago
        Let us assume for the sake of argument that these questions have reasonable answers (different in detail for each such person), that the homeless people that live in such encampments do not have a viable alternative to 'living rough', and the best solution they were able to come up with (for whatever reasons) was pitching a tent in a public park. What alternative are you going to offer them that doesn't present barriers they can't surmount?

amanaplanacanal 5y ago

Unless you have a better idea as to where these people should go, just saying that they shouldn’t be there isn’t very useful.

betwixthewires 5y ago
That's not true, acknowledging the problem is the first step to coming up with a solution.

webmaven 5y ago

> The issue isn't the number of people in public parks. The issue is that people are using public parks (and other public spaces) to set up encampments, which is not the purpose of these public spaces. In fact, this infringes on the rights of the people who want to use these spaces for legal purposes. All right, where do you think the encampments should be set up?

LurkingPenguin 5y ago
I find it interesting that you apparently have the belief that such encampments should or need to exist.
- webmaven 5y ago
  All right, what do you think the people populating such camps should do? Where do you think they should go?
  - LurkingPenguin 5y ago
    Who are these people? Why are they homeless? Where are their families? Do they want to not be homeless? What is preventing them from not being homeless? Before you try to answer the question of what they should do and where should they go, I think you realistically need to answer these questions.
    - webmaven 5y ago
      Let us assume for the sake of argument that these questions have reasonable answers (different in detail for each such person), that the homeless people that live in such encampments do not have a viable alternative to 'living rough', and the best solution they were able to come up with (for whatever reasons) was pitching a tent in a public park. What alternative are you going to offer them that doesn't present barriers they can't surmount?