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Google Plans to Cut Remote Workers’ Salaries by 25%
- Grakel 5y agoCompanies have no business concerning themselves with my expenses or my profit over cost. Also, for years developers slept in vans in the parking lot to get around SF housing costs, I don't see how remote is any different.
- Bostonian 5y agoGoogle and other companies have paid employees in India much less than similarly skilled employees in the U.S. for some time. Should that also be prohibited?
- jdhendrickson 5y agoFor quality employees? Yes. The idea that we shouldn't take advantage of people just because they live in another country shouldn't be controversial, but here we are.
- known 5y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index
- lttlrck 5y agoThe scaling for distance seems a little off but if your salary was negotiated for an in-person position, and you then want change that agreement, for any reason pandemic or not, then surely something has to give?
- CheezeIt 5y agoWell, they aren’t, they just think you won’t get a better offer. The operative word in Bay Area Salaries was “Bay Area.”
- Proven 5y ago> Companies have no business concerning themselves with my expenses or my profit over cost. They aren't. They are concerned about their own.
- timmg 5y agoEmployment is a market. Google needs to pay what the market will bear. If the "remote worker" market is 25% cheaper than Silicon Valley, then that's what they'll pay. If they underpay then they'll lose workers. Or... maybe Google wants the remote workers to find other jobs. If they believe that in person employment is that much better they should be willing to pay 25% more (well, technically 33% more) that's their right. History will show if they made a smart decision.
- xt00 5y agoThis feels like more of a “let’s float the idea that we are considering a 25% salary cut for remote folks.. so get your butt back to the office…”
- Rebelgecko 5y agoIf you live near the office, there's no paycut for going remote (other than missing perks like free lunch) Disclaimer- I work for Google and think this article is intentionally misleading clickbait
- mrtweetyhack 5y agoturnover at all time high, management puzzled and struggling to find a cause
- pyuser583 5y agoThey should be prepared for surprise resignations. I’ve worked with “ex-Googlers” who got paid insane sums of money because they were “ex-Googlers.” There are plenty of companies that pay remote employees SF/NY wages and who would love to snatch a Googler. If Google is OK with that then fine. But they shouldn’t be supposed if employees start looking for a place that pays SF wages in Des Moines.
- foobaw 5y agox-googlers are expensive. most companies can't afford them. They'd likely need to sell with stock options and IPO prospects
- pyuser583 5y agoPlenty of unicorns around. They would love those googlers, and many are willing to pay SF wages in (say) Des Moines.
- ageek123 5y agoIt's not a question of SF wages, but Google-in-SF wages. Which is VERY high. I think a citation is needed for your claim.
- effingwewt 5y agoGood point, unicorns should be rare, let's just call them horses now, or better yet- donkeys.
- pyuser583 5y agoI’ve had the same thought.
- gravypod 5y agoI get weekly emails from HFTs wanting to hire SWEs and SREs for >500k base. These companies do exist but vary quite a bit in quality of life and stress.
- coin 5y agoAre they cutting only salaries or equity as well?
- rapjr9 5y agoRemote workers should then charge Google for use of their homes as office space, telephone, internet connection, lighting, office supplies. Seems like that would make up the 25%. Remote workers should cost Google less overall even with no pay cut because Google doesn't have to pay all that office overhead and studies show remote workers are more productive and put in more hours. So they could give remote workers a raise and still save money. If the argument is that the higher salary compensates for the high cost of city housing then should the workers who happen to find and live in cheaper housing also get a pay cut, even if they come into the office? Can workers get a pay raise by moving to a more expensive house?
- nikolay 5y agoYes, they plan. But people make counter plans, too.