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I was thinking of making the move to SF for the higher income. Seeing the past few years of the city have completely changed my mind though. Chesa Boudin physic

I was thinking of making the move to SF for the higher income. Seeing the past few years of the city have completely changed my mind though. Chesa Boudin physically makes my head hurt so much.

pvarangot 5y ago
I wouldn't give up the higher income because you don't like the DA. If you don't read the news or hang out with people that are addicted to the news like /r/sanfrancisco you won't even notice. My way to deal with car crime is not owning a car, with the extra income I can afford to mostly use ridesharing for most of my needs and rent a car for the rest of them. Other than car crime, other forms of violent crime in SF are mostly non-existent and rare statical anomalies.
- muh_gradle 5y ago
  I'm an Asian American. I have absolutely zero confidence that racist attacks against Asians are going to get better any time soon against people like me especially when a DA like Chesa Boudin refuses to take any single form of accountability in regards to crime. I'll happily take a smaller paycheck if that means I don't have to constantly watch my back.
- kortilla 5y ago
  > My way to deal with car crime is not owning a car, with the extra income I can afford to mostly use ridesharing for most of my needs and rent a car for the rest of them. That is mind boggling to Americans outside of SF though. That’s the equivalent of telling people not to “dress slutty” if they don’t want to be raped.
  - pvarangot 5y ago
    > That’s the equivalent of telling people not to “dress slutty” if they don’t want to be raped. So crime against your car and your person are two completely different things so I don't think it's equivalent at all. Also I am not "less free" because I don't have a car, everything I would do in my life with one I do with more expensive services. If I needed a car I would get one and deal with car crime in other way, maybe moving to another city, maybe organizing a militia to defend cars. By not dressing however you want because of fear you are giving away something.
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elevenoh 5y ago
Try living there for a month 1st.. it has significantly changed.
zumu 5y ago
If you want to open a Walgreen's in the FiDi, I'd advise against it, but assuming you're a tech worker, it's a pretty pleasant place to live. While it all depends on your values, it's very walkable for a US city, relatively safe, and has mild weather. Homelessness is of course an issue as it is for most west coast cities.
- hitekker 5y ago
  SF is great once you convince yourself that crime, lawlessness and misery are "values" rather than the result of poor governance. When I lived in SF, it was fun watching who could admit the government wasn't great, and who did extreme mental gymnastics to avoid unpleasant reality.
  - zumu 5y ago
    I'm not saying "crime, lawlessness and misery" are values, but rather trade-offs for other amenities the city brings, namely walkability, weather, nice parks, decent public transportation, etc. In the US, I find you either live in a place where you can ignore these problems (e.g. car-centric cities, suburbs, gated communities, etc.) or you live amongst it. In SF, both trade-offs exist—you can live somewhere like Soma, or you can live somewhere like the Outer Sunset. Depending on where you choose to live, you can have a very different experience of SF. I firmly agree the SF government isn't great and probably won't be here long term because of its various problems, but I'm still glad I moved here to launch my career.

I was thinking of making the move to SF for the higher income. Seeing the past few years of the city have completely changed my mind though. Chesa Boudin physically makes my head hurt so much.

pvarangot 5y ago

I wouldn't give up the higher income because you don't like the DA. If you don't read the news or hang out with people that are addicted to the news like /r/sanfrancisco you won't even notice. My way to deal with car crime is not owning a car, with the extra income I can afford to mostly use ridesharing for most of my needs and rent a car for the rest of them. Other than car crime, other forms of violent crime in SF are mostly non-existent and rare statical anomalies.

muh_gradle 5y ago
I'm an Asian American. I have absolutely zero confidence that racist attacks against Asians are going to get better any time soon against people like me especially when a DA like Chesa Boudin refuses to take any single form of accountability in regards to crime. I'll happily take a smaller paycheck if that means I don't have to constantly watch my back.
kortilla 5y ago
> My way to deal with car crime is not owning a car, with the extra income I can afford to mostly use ridesharing for most of my needs and rent a car for the rest of them. That is mind boggling to Americans outside of SF though. That’s the equivalent of telling people not to “dress slutty” if they don’t want to be raped.
- pvarangot 5y ago
  > That’s the equivalent of telling people not to “dress slutty” if they don’t want to be raped. So crime against your car and your person are two completely different things so I don't think it's equivalent at all. Also I am not "less free" because I don't have a car, everything I would do in my life with one I do with more expensive services. If I needed a car I would get one and deal with car crime in other way, maybe moving to another city, maybe organizing a militia to defend cars. By not dressing however you want because of fear you are giving away something.

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elevenoh 5y ago

Try living there for a month 1st.. it has significantly changed.

zumu 5y ago

If you want to open a Walgreen's in the FiDi, I'd advise against it, but assuming you're a tech worker, it's a pretty pleasant place to live. While it all depends on your values, it's very walkable for a US city, relatively safe, and has mild weather. Homelessness is of course an issue as it is for most west coast cities.

hitekker 5y ago
SF is great once you convince yourself that crime, lawlessness and misery are "values" rather than the result of poor governance. When I lived in SF, it was fun watching who could admit the government wasn't great, and who did extreme mental gymnastics to avoid unpleasant reality.
- zumu 5y ago
  I'm not saying "crime, lawlessness and misery" are values, but rather trade-offs for other amenities the city brings, namely walkability, weather, nice parks, decent public transportation, etc. In the US, I find you either live in a place where you can ignore these problems (e.g. car-centric cities, suburbs, gated communities, etc.) or you live amongst it. In SF, both trade-offs exist—you can live somewhere like Soma, or you can live somewhere like the Outer Sunset. Depending on where you choose to live, you can have a very different experience of SF. I firmly agree the SF government isn't great and probably won't be here long term because of its various problems, but I'm still glad I moved here to launch my career.