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The correct response to these sorts of actions by law enforcement is for individuals to collaborate in a legal manner to collect intelligence on law enforcement

• shadowgovt 5y ago
  I'm trying to figure out what sort of intelligence would be collectable that isn't already. Do you mean officer movements in-field? That's often done by protesters (I remember seeing examples of it during both the BLM protests and the WTO protests; police movements tracked by monitoring police scanners and updated in realtime to chatrooms and Twitter). Do you mean who they are personally? As public servants, that's generally a matter of public record. Do you mean camera recording of specific encounters? That's become best practice. I think what you're describing is what we do now.
  • thatguy0900 5y ago
    Probably more describing tracking them in their personal off duty lives,and sharing personal details like address, their car, etc.
    • SpelingBeeChamp 5y ago
      The likely consequence of which will be even more laws like Florida Statutes §119.071(4)(d)(2): "2.a The home addresses, telephone numbers, dates of birth, and photographs of active or former sworn law enforcement personnel or of active or former civilian personnel employed by a law enforcement agency, including correctional and correctional probation officers, personnel of the Department of Children and Families whose duties include the investigation of abuse, neglect, exploitation, fraud, theft, or other criminal activities, personnel of the Department of Health whose duties are to support the investigation of child abuse or neglect, and personnel of the Department of Revenue or local governments whose responsibilities include revenue collection and enforcement or child support enforcement; the names, home addresses, telephone numbers, photographs, dates of birth, and places of employment of the spouses and children of such personnel; and the names and locations of schools and day care facilities attended by the children of such personnel are exempt from s. 119.07(1) and s. 24(a), Art. I of the State Constitution."
  • 14 5y ago
    Well as soon as a bunch of officers and politicians realize someone followed their every movement and we know where they buy their groceries, where they go to church, who their friends are, who their children are and what elementary school they attend, the route their 8 year old walks home after school and any other creepy but legal information one could easily obtain by surveillance in public. I don’t condone this type of action. But I also don’t believe we should be tracked across everything we do so perhaps doing something like this could send a message.
    • utexaspunk 5y ago
      That might be the sort of message that, while it seems poignant and clever to thinking people, will be lost on the masses and actually end up backfiring and making things worse
• goldwind1111 5y ago
  well put.
  • koheripbal 5y ago
    I'm confused by this thread. The protesters in this case were destroying company property on company land over a pipeline that was routed around a native American reservation. It would be weird if the police DIDN'T warn companies/individuals about protesters planning on destroying property at other locations. That's the police's job - to prevent crime. If the protesters were smashing cars in your neighborhood, I suspect you'd want the police to warn the residents there as well.
    • greyivy 5y ago
      Innocent, everyday people being targeted ≠ massive oil company that is monetizing the death of the planet being targeted.
      • mrmckizzle 5y ago
        Argumentum ad populum
        • atatatat 5y ago
          I'll just take Latin, brb
• RickJWagner 5y ago
  And would the correct response to that action be to publish the names and addresses of the doxers online? My point: Shifty, illegal, underhanded things are just wrong. Do it all above board.
  • Teever 5y ago
    This is typically what happens when people are arrested and charged for crimes, yes.