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It's the 6th highest body count of any pandemic in history after The Black Death, Spanish Flu, AIDS/HIV, The Plague of Justinian, and the Antonine Plague, and i

by jjk166 5y ago

It's the 6th highest body count of any pandemic in history after The Black Death, Spanish Flu, AIDS/HIV, The Plague of Justinian, and the Antonine Plague, and it's on track to beat the Antonine Plague.

elzbardico 5y ago
This is highly misleading as you are ignoring the number of deaths compared to the population. The Antonine plague killed 2,6% of the world population. Covid, so far? 0.04%. It is not even close to beat the Antonine plague. Just for perspective: The upper estimate for covid deaths in 2020 was 3M. The average estimate for yearly tobacco deaths is around 7.5 M. Every FUCKING YEAR, almost 3 covid pandemics caused by cigarretes. Not to mention that the averaged covid death age is very close to the average life expectation, that is, a majority of people who died of it would probably die in one year or two. Does it means is not a serious disease? No. it doesn't. Does it means it is a hoax? hell, no! But does it means that there's an unwarranted level of panic? You sure bet.
- pc86 5y ago
  I agree with your points but I also think it's an important distinction that people choose to smoke cigarettes. I don't think folks without mental health issues are intentionally getting COVID.
- jjk166 5y ago
  You said 7 figure body counts in 2 years weren't bad by global pandemic standards. 7 figure body counts in 2 years put you in the top ten deadliest natural disasters in human history. No one was talking about fraction of the population, nor was anyone talking about effective reduction of life expectancy. You specifically were using the metric body count. If you want to make an argument that this pandemic isn't that bad because the people who died this time don't count for as much as those who died in other pandemics, you can do so, but I think that's a poor strategy for corporate PR.
  - elzbardico 5y ago
    You can’t compare absolute numbers. Why do you insist on that? Do you think world population was always the same? Really?
    - jjk166 5y ago
      If the question is a matter of absolute numbers, which for body count it is, then yes I can.

by jjk166 5y ago

elzbardico 5y ago

This is highly misleading as you are ignoring the number of deaths compared to the population. The Antonine plague killed 2,6% of the world population. Covid, so far? 0.04%. It is not even close to beat the Antonine plague. Just for perspective: The upper estimate for covid deaths in 2020 was 3M. The average estimate for yearly tobacco deaths is around 7.5 M. Every FUCKING YEAR, almost 3 covid pandemics caused by cigarretes. Not to mention that the averaged covid death age is very close to the average life expectation, that is, a majority of people who died of it would probably die in one year or two. Does it means is not a serious disease? No. it doesn't. Does it means it is a hoax? hell, no! But does it means that there's an unwarranted level of panic? You sure bet.

pc86 5y ago
I agree with your points but I also think it's an important distinction that people choose to smoke cigarettes. I don't think folks without mental health issues are intentionally getting COVID.
jjk166 5y ago
You said 7 figure body counts in 2 years weren't bad by global pandemic standards. 7 figure body counts in 2 years put you in the top ten deadliest natural disasters in human history. No one was talking about fraction of the population, nor was anyone talking about effective reduction of life expectancy. You specifically were using the metric body count. If you want to make an argument that this pandemic isn't that bad because the people who died this time don't count for as much as those who died in other pandemics, you can do so, but I think that's a poor strategy for corporate PR.
- elzbardico 5y ago
  You can’t compare absolute numbers. Why do you insist on that? Do you think world population was always the same? Really?
  - jjk166 5y ago
    If the question is a matter of absolute numbers, which for body count it is, then yes I can.