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It's almost like they want to make sure it works for the vast majority of people before they spend time and effort making it work for a much smaller segment of

It's almost like they want to make sure it works for the vast majority of people before they spend time and effort making it work for a much smaller segment of their userbase.

ZenPsycho 5y ago
so they should tackle accessibility (20%) before mac (8%) and linux (2%) support
- nybble41 5y ago
  The odds are good that the fraction of this project's user base—developers writing GUI applications in Rust—who would be interested in Linux support is much more than 2%.
  - ZenPsycho 5y ago
    i thonk you’ve forgotten what the point of developing software is
b3morales 5y ago
Accessibility is not a bolt-on extra feature, it's core to being able to make a product that suits all your users. Everyone needs, or will need, accommodation sometimes. When you have an accident waterskiing and end up on crutches, you'll be glad for the accessibilty of doors that open with a button press. When you poke your eye hiking and need to wear an eyepatch for a few weeks, a screen reader might not seem such a niche use case. These are even kind of extreme examples: frankly, even stuff like dark mode that we take for granted at this point is an accommodation to how some people need or want to use their computers. Migraines are a good example of an (astonishingly) common condition that benefits from flexibility around having to stare at a screen. None of us gets younger as the days go by, either, and that comes with changed needs. I'm still thirty years from retirement and I find that the 10 point font I used to prefer isn't good enough anymore. Bumping up text size is a quotidian action for me and millions of other people. ADDITION: Ah, finally found the quote I was looking for. Maybe not directly relevant, but thought-provoking: > SMS texting was invented [to] figure out a way for deaf people to communicate with one another without speaking. ... Now text messages are universal. https://blog.ai-media.tv/blog/why-designing-for-accessibility-helps-everyone https://blog.ai-media.tv/blog/why-designing-for-accessibilit...
scns 5y ago
One blind programmer has worked on the Rust compiler. Indirectly he is making a library like this possible. Should we leave him out, because he is a minority?

It's almost like they want to make sure it works for the vast majority of people before they spend time and effort making it work for a much smaller segment of their userbase.

ZenPsycho 5y ago

so they should tackle accessibility (20%) before mac (8%) and linux (2%) support

nybble41 5y ago
The odds are good that the fraction of this project's user base—developers writing GUI applications in Rust—who would be interested in Linux support is much more than 2%.
- ZenPsycho 5y ago
  i thonk you’ve forgotten what the point of developing software is

b3morales 5y ago

Accessibility is not a bolt-on extra feature, it's core to being able to make a product that suits all your users. Everyone needs, or will need, accommodation sometimes. When you have an accident waterskiing and end up on crutches, you'll be glad for the accessibilty of doors that open with a button press. When you poke your eye hiking and need to wear an eyepatch for a few weeks, a screen reader might not seem such a niche use case. These are even kind of extreme examples: frankly, even stuff like dark mode that we take for granted at this point is an accommodation to how some people need or want to use their computers. Migraines are a good example of an (astonishingly) common condition that benefits from flexibility around having to stare at a screen. None of us gets younger as the days go by, either, and that comes with changed needs. I'm still thirty years from retirement and I find that the 10 point font I used to prefer isn't good enough anymore. Bumping up text size is a quotidian action for me and millions of other people. ADDITION: Ah, finally found the quote I was looking for. Maybe not directly relevant, but thought-provoking: > SMS texting was invented [to] figure out a way for deaf people to communicate with one another without speaking. ... Now text messages are universal. https://blog.ai-media.tv/blog/why-designing-for-accessibility-helps-everyone https://blog.ai-media.tv/blog/why-designing-for-accessibilit...

scns 5y ago

One blind programmer has worked on the Rust compiler. Indirectly he is making a library like this possible. Should we leave him out, because he is a minority?