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Yeah. Should be "If you survive covid 19, you will have greater immunity to covid that you would get from a vaccine"

seoaeu 5y ago
Pedantically, dying from covid makes it even less likely you'll catch it again... Really this is all just confusing what the actual goal is: to end the pandemic while minimizing death and suffering
- hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
  Well, actually pedantic anti-vaxers would formulate it as "If you survive covid 19, you will have greater immunity to covid than you would get from surviving taking the vaccine"
- aww_dang 5y ago
  >the actual goal is: to end the pandemic while minimizing death and suffering We can all agree we want less death and suffering. However, it isn't difficult to imagine that other goals may exist. "The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world" - Professor Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman, World Economic Forum https://www.weforum.org/focus/the-great-reset https://www.weforum.org/focus/the-great-reset
koheripbal 5y ago
This assumes the audience for this title are people that have not yet been infected. It could also apply, for example, to the hundreds of millions of people world wide who have already been infected. I don't think a fact should assume an audience.
- raffraffraff 5y ago
  Yes, but strategically we should probably write headlines that be can't taken out of context to disingenuously argue that they "prove" that vaccines are worthless. Anyway, re-reading your point... My headline wasn't intended to be aimed at any person. It's a hypothetical statement about covid immunity level after surviving covid. Glad I didn't go into journalism.
  - peteradio 5y ago
    Agreed, the original paper title is more appropriate: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v...

Pedantically, dying from covid makes it even less likely you'll catch it again... Really this is all just confusing what the actual goal is: to end the pandemic while minimizing death and suffering

hdjjhhvvhga 5y ago
Well, actually pedantic anti-vaxers would formulate it as "If you survive covid 19, you will have greater immunity to covid than you would get from surviving taking the vaccine"
aww_dang 5y ago
>the actual goal is: to end the pandemic while minimizing death and suffering We can all agree we want less death and suffering. However, it isn't difficult to imagine that other goals may exist. "The pandemic represents a rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine, and reset our world" - Professor Klaus Schwab, Founder and Executive Chairman, World Economic Forum https://www.weforum.org/focus/the-great-reset https://www.weforum.org/focus/the-great-reset

koheripbal 5y ago

This assumes the audience for this title are people that have not yet been infected. It could also apply, for example, to the hundreds of millions of people world wide who have already been infected. I don't think a fact should assume an audience.

raffraffraff 5y ago
Yes, but strategically we should probably write headlines that be can't taken out of context to disingenuously argue that they "prove" that vaccines are worthless. Anyway, re-reading your point... My headline wasn't intended to be aimed at any person. It's a hypothetical statement about covid immunity level after surviving covid. Glad I didn't go into journalism.
- peteradio 5y ago
  Agreed, the original paper title is more appropriate: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v...