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One can observe how this topic has become political, and is no longer scientific. Our focus and concerns are now all about existing and forthcoming restriction

One can observe how this topic has become political, and is no longer scientific. Our focus and concerns are now all about existing and forthcoming restrictions and mandates for vaccinations and masks -- so much that information like this is no longer even interesting to most people. Not only uninteresting, but vulnerable to censors.

aabaker99 5y ago
For those who haven't observed this, what are your observations? Does this apply to the article we are discussing, too, or is it more of a general concern about mandates?
nogridbag 5y ago
Comments like these about censorship keep coming up, yet this is the third straight day this topic is being discussed on the front page of HN. I see the same thing on Facebook. Half of my family is still complaining about censorship and how everything is politicized while they continue to post political memes about Hilary Clinton, false or misleading information about vaccines, etc. The other half quit facebook or occasionally post family pictures.
- CodeWriter23 5y ago
  Censorship is happening. A friend of mine (who happens to be a former Congressman) was silenced by Facebook for 30 days for merely citing Pfizer’s profit on the vaccine as reported in a WSJ Article. Don’t be fooled by the narratives Facebook permits.
- eplanit 5y ago
  Earlier this month Rand Paul, a U.S. Senator and a former physician, was banned from YouTube for a week for simply saying that cloth masks are ineffective. YouTube et al. could just as easily decide that discussion of natural immunity from prior infection is also "dangerous" (it might discourage vaccination) and ban it.
- abnorxiouster 5y ago
  Nobody censored anything in this case on this platform -> therefore there is no censorship on the subject of covid Logic
capableweb 5y ago
Uuuh, you're writing a comment about how COVID has become political on a scientific article about COVID that doesn't mention any politics. One could believe you are actively working against your best interests here by leaving this type of comment. You'd be better at making things scientific again by behaving the one you'd like others to behave.
Expirat 5y ago
> information like this is no longer even interesting to most people That is because the opportunity has arisen to assert power and control over those deemed the enemies of modernity, diversity and progres, you know those guys: the antivaxxers, the qtards, the bigots, the skeptics, the conspiracists, the uneducated and so on. Vaccine mandates and restrictions are not a rational reaction to the threat of covid but an irrational reaction used by the upper class, the elites, the guys in charge to beat down both economically and socially the deplorables. And the deplorables react with such opposition to vaccines and pandemic measures precisely because they sense the hatred and bias, they feel all those measures are not made to protect them but to force them to just get bent.

aabaker99 5y ago

For those who haven't observed this, what are your observations? Does this apply to the article we are discussing, too, or is it more of a general concern about mandates?

nogridbag 5y ago

Comments like these about censorship keep coming up, yet this is the third straight day this topic is being discussed on the front page of HN. I see the same thing on Facebook. Half of my family is still complaining about censorship and how everything is politicized while they continue to post political memes about Hilary Clinton, false or misleading information about vaccines, etc. The other half quit facebook or occasionally post family pictures.

CodeWriter23 5y ago
Censorship is happening. A friend of mine (who happens to be a former Congressman) was silenced by Facebook for 30 days for merely citing Pfizer’s profit on the vaccine as reported in a WSJ Article. Don’t be fooled by the narratives Facebook permits.
eplanit 5y ago
Earlier this month Rand Paul, a U.S. Senator and a former physician, was banned from YouTube for a week for simply saying that cloth masks are ineffective. YouTube et al. could just as easily decide that discussion of natural immunity from prior infection is also "dangerous" (it might discourage vaccination) and ban it.
abnorxiouster 5y ago
Nobody censored anything in this case on this platform -> therefore there is no censorship on the subject of covid Logic

capableweb 5y ago

Uuuh, you're writing a comment about how COVID has become political on a scientific article about COVID that doesn't mention any politics. One could believe you are actively working against your best interests here by leaving this type of comment. You'd be better at making things scientific again by behaving the one you'd like others to behave.

Expirat 5y ago

> information like this is no longer even interesting to most people That is because the opportunity has arisen to assert power and control over those deemed the enemies of modernity, diversity and progres, you know those guys: the antivaxxers, the qtards, the bigots, the skeptics, the conspiracists, the uneducated and so on. Vaccine mandates and restrictions are not a rational reaction to the threat of covid but an irrational reaction used by the upper class, the elites, the guys in charge to beat down both economically and socially the deplorables. And the deplorables react with such opposition to vaccines and pandemic measures precisely because they sense the hatred and bias, they feel all those measures are not made to protect them but to force them to just get bent.