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Well it does collapse right now, doesent it? The Tax-idermy, were a society pushes ridiculous amounts of stabilization money into collapsing external peripher

Well it does collapse right now, doesent it? The Tax-idermy, were a society pushes ridiculous amounts of stabilization money into collapsing external peripheral "shell" societies who in return send refugee waves in convulsions, while slowly sinking into the civil/war/crime collapse accepting end-state is in full, brutally visible progress. The politicians, leering for the authoritarian toolkit, because they doubt they can stabilize the mess that is to come. How bad does it have to get, before you take a step back and acknowledge, that yes, this is un-subjective worser and even local recovery is unlikely, due to interconnected nature of global society and nature. Sorry if things are bleak, but software seems to be one of the few levers i myself can pull towards a positive outcome, a better place, by allowing others to escape the dystopia of government eating the cooperated monopolies for societal control because government needs to be in control of something- anything and its definitely not in control of anything that would change outcomes.

simonh 5y ago
Put a pin in this and go back to it in 20 or 30 years, then look at how things actually worked out and ask yourself some questions. Was western civilisation actually collapsing? Were the things you though were most important, actually what drove politics and economies in the decades since? If you were wrong, what basic assumptions were you making that lead to that mistake, and what assumptions were the people making that got it right? Why is it they saw things more clearly? You can actually do this right now. Go back and see what critics of the developed world economic systems were saying 30 years ago, or 50 years ago, or 150 years ago. What predictions were they making about growth and employment, what signs of failure did they see, and did those things actually matter in the long term? Doom mongering about the collapse of capitalism has a very, very, very long history.
- hammyhavoc 5y ago
  Thanks for being a voice of reason on this. The world is too focused on scaremongering these days.

simonh 5y ago

Put a pin in this and go back to it in 20 or 30 years, then look at how things actually worked out and ask yourself some questions. Was western civilisation actually collapsing? Were the things you though were most important, actually what drove politics and economies in the decades since? If you were wrong, what basic assumptions were you making that lead to that mistake, and what assumptions were the people making that got it right? Why is it they saw things more clearly? You can actually do this right now. Go back and see what critics of the developed world economic systems were saying 30 years ago, or 50 years ago, or 150 years ago. What predictions were they making about growth and employment, what signs of failure did they see, and did those things actually matter in the long term? Doom mongering about the collapse of capitalism has a very, very, very long history.

hammyhavoc 5y ago
Thanks for being a voice of reason on this. The world is too focused on scaremongering these days.