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People are saying it's purely human driver error.. perhaps. But the situation often occurs where you are driving past crosswalks with people on the side waitin
by darepublic 5y ago
People are saying it's purely human driver error.. perhaps. But the situation often occurs where you are driving past crosswalks with people on the side waiting. If one were to suddenly step out just before you passed you would hit them. That wouldn't be on the driver it would be on the pedestrian.
Also, say an observant driver should have been able to tell that the Paralympian intended to walk. So it's human driver fault right? But maybe even then not entirely.. say the self driving system acts skittish way too often. Then it conditions the human drivers to be fed up with its automatic skittishness and just punch the proceed button routinely when it gets to intersections with pedestrians on the side.
Just putting this out there because I see no one suggesting the pedestrian could be to blame or recognizing the subtleties of the shared responsibility of human and self driving system.
- jrootabega 5y agoYep, and this is exacerbated in cities, and in areas where, for some reason, they make the bad choice of putting crosswalks near bus stops. Much of the time, people standing near crosswalks are just waiting for a bus, and usually successfully communicating that to drivers does not happen. And as we know, when there IS a bus using the stop, using the crosswalk is a lot more dangerous.
- wjnc 5y agoYou live somewhere where people on the crosswalk don’t have right of way? That’s interesting. Where I live you have right of way on the crosswalk if you demonstrate intent to cross. There’s pretty much zero chance for the driver to not be liable in case of an accident.
- hypertele-Xii 5y agoSame here. If a pedestrian is waiting at a crosswalk, vehicle traffic must stop by law.
- jrootabega 5y agoThere are places where pedestrians IN the crosswalk have the right of way, but not AT the crosswalk.
- Someone 5y agoPedestrians can enter the crosswalk without showing (much of) intent to cross. As an extreme example, a pedestrian could be standing on the sidewalk and suddenly take a step backwards onto the crosswalk.
- dkersten 5y agoIn some countries if you’re waiting at the crosswalk, it’s assumed you will cross and cars will wait for you. I was yelled at in Berlin once for (unintentionally) standing at a crosswalk and not crossing (I wasn’t paying attention and didn’t realise, I was chatting with someone) while the car waited for me to cross.
- spiderxxxx 5y agoThe number of times I've been almost hit by a Tesla because I was walking in a parking lot and didn't hear them (because they didn't have any warning sounds) is too damn high. If they're going slow, they should play a sound or something. I check behind me, no cars, I cross the parking lot road, only to be almost hit by a Tesla because they just pulled out, and I didn't hear them. A simple sound, whooshing, beeping, whatever, would have solved that problem. Why Tesla didn't implement such a thing is anyone's guess.