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Oxford University has a covid risk calculator which might be compelling? However be careful it may backfire because if he is healthy then his odds of dying of

by dnh44 5y ago

Oxford University has a covid risk calculator which might be compelling? However be careful it may backfire because if he is healthy then his odds of dying of covid will be way less than his odds of dying in a car crash this year. https://www.qcovid.org/Calculation https://www.qcovid.org/Calculation

me_me_me 5y ago
Thank you, at least I got a single useful reply :)
- sethammons 5y ago
  So I ran that calculator on myself, and apparently I have a 1/88k (0.002%) chance of developing long covid and a smaller chance of dying. The argument you are facing is "what about the side effects?" - so I looked up an article on side effects that I thought was very fair (note, I'm not an expert, I'm not even a novice): https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/12143-three-things-to-know-about-the-long-term-side-effects-of-covid-vaccines https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/12143-three-things-to-k... In it, it talks about historic vaccine fails (mostly due to contamination) and concludes that the vaccine should be safe, even considering long term effects. But then you read something like this: https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/04/27/first-nations-vaccine-adverse-reactions-charles-hoffe.html https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/04/27/first-nations-vaccine... And it talks about a doctor's experience trying to understand side effects he is witnessing with his patients and he can't get _anyone_ to engage and gets lumped in as promoting vaccine hesitancy. His data is rejected. I'm not sure what sources of data your brother accesses (if any), but I have family sending me videos like the following that bring up very good points against the vaccine, and this is from a Ph.D. in cellular and molecular biology: https://theplantstrongclub.org/2021/08/26/dr-christina-parks-testimony-for-michigan-house-bill-4471-hb4471-on-8-19-21/ https://theplantstrongclub.org/2021/08/26/dr-christina-parks... With stories of data being refused that goes against the grain and the most convincing message from the government that I see is "trust us," I can see why someone with a very small chance of being harmed by COVID would want to wait for more data to surface. Note, I would like to be corrected for anything that is incorrectly presented in the above links. I'm not anti-vax. I would like to understand if the second two links are non-credible.

by dnh44 5y ago

me_me_me 5y ago

Thank you, at least I got a single useful reply :)

sethammons 5y ago
So I ran that calculator on myself, and apparently I have a 1/88k (0.002%) chance of developing long covid and a smaller chance of dying. The argument you are facing is "what about the side effects?" - so I looked up an article on side effects that I thought was very fair (note, I'm not an expert, I'm not even a novice): https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/12143-three-things-to-know-about-the-long-term-side-effects-of-covid-vaccines https://www.uab.edu/news/health/item/12143-three-things-to-k... In it, it talks about historic vaccine fails (mostly due to contamination) and concludes that the vaccine should be safe, even considering long term effects. But then you read something like this: https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/04/27/first-nations-vaccine-adverse-reactions-charles-hoffe.html https://www.visiontimes.com/2021/04/27/first-nations-vaccine... And it talks about a doctor's experience trying to understand side effects he is witnessing with his patients and he can't get _anyone_ to engage and gets lumped in as promoting vaccine hesitancy. His data is rejected. I'm not sure what sources of data your brother accesses (if any), but I have family sending me videos like the following that bring up very good points against the vaccine, and this is from a Ph.D. in cellular and molecular biology: https://theplantstrongclub.org/2021/08/26/dr-christina-parks-testimony-for-michigan-house-bill-4471-hb4471-on-8-19-21/ https://theplantstrongclub.org/2021/08/26/dr-christina-parks... With stories of data being refused that goes against the grain and the most convincing message from the government that I see is "trust us," I can see why someone with a very small chance of being harmed by COVID would want to wait for more data to surface. Note, I would like to be corrected for anything that is incorrectly presented in the above links. I'm not anti-vax. I would like to understand if the second two links are non-credible.