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Everything that is done with a platform dependent app can be done with a platform independent web app. I don't know what the best way out of this is but app sto

Everything that is done with a platform dependent app can be done with a platform independent web app. I don't know what the best way out of this is but app stores were a step back. Your phone could have one app...a web browser and maybe a few utilities like a calculator, calendar, clock. Even these could be implemented as web apps running in the browser.

hossbeast 5y ago
Sounds like the slowest, most bloated way possible to design a calculator that runs on a phone.
- martzy13 5y ago
  Agreed. It seems like a great way to turn your web browser into an abstraction of an operating system.
  - em-bee 5y ago
    but this is what apple originally intended, just phones weren't powerful enough at the time. later firefoxOS did exactly that. and it worked well. its only weak part was the lack of apps in the market.
    - snuxoll 5y ago
      Cries in Palm webOS. I still miss my Palm Pre - shame HP killed Palm.
    - diskzero 5y ago
      Has too much time passed for FirefoxOS to become viable again? The latest moves by Apple seems to be changing public sentiment .
      - commoner 5y ago
        KaiOS was forked from Firefox OS, and it's currently installed on over 150 million devices, mostly in India. Unfortunately, it's closed source. https://www.engadget.com/2019-02-26-kaios-third-mobile-operating-system.html https://www.engadget.com/2019-02-26-kaios-third-mobile-opera... https://www.fastcompany.com/90457544/kaios-most-innovative-companies-2020 https://www.fastcompany.com/90457544/kaios-most-innovative-c...
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  - sidlls 5y ago
    That’s more or less where browsers are (or are heading rapidly). It’s dumb and terrible and has all sorts of issues: but it’s also cheap and easy, and often that’s good enough.
jayd16 5y ago
What about a different web browser?
jamil7 5y ago
So you can't have any platform differentiation and at the same time lose any cohesive, platform specific UI with known conventions. Instead of two major mobile vendors we end up with one or best case scenario two major browsers from one or two tech companies with enough resources to to build and maintain them.
- morpheos137 5y ago
  Or we could just have open standards like the web originally was and mostly still is. You can use the gmail web app from a wide range of browsers. Even Lynx in the console...It is not like you have to access a separate gmail web page for each browser you use. I don't get why people think web apps would need to lead to proprietary browser dependence. Not if they are coded for open standards, like HTML, CSS, Javascript, etc.

hossbeast 5y ago

Sounds like the slowest, most bloated way possible to design a calculator that runs on a phone.

martzy13 5y ago
Agreed. It seems like a great way to turn your web browser into an abstraction of an operating system.
- em-bee 5y ago
  but this is what apple originally intended, just phones weren't powerful enough at the time. later firefoxOS did exactly that. and it worked well. its only weak part was the lack of apps in the market.
  - snuxoll 5y ago
    Cries in Palm webOS. I still miss my Palm Pre - shame HP killed Palm.
  - diskzero 5y ago
    Has too much time passed for FirefoxOS to become viable again? The latest moves by Apple seems to be changing public sentiment .
    - commoner 5y ago
      KaiOS was forked from Firefox OS, and it's currently installed on over 150 million devices, mostly in India. Unfortunately, it's closed source. https://www.engadget.com/2019-02-26-kaios-third-mobile-operating-system.html https://www.engadget.com/2019-02-26-kaios-third-mobile-opera... https://www.fastcompany.com/90457544/kaios-most-innovative-companies-2020 https://www.fastcompany.com/90457544/kaios-most-innovative-c...
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- sidlls 5y ago
  That’s more or less where browsers are (or are heading rapidly). It’s dumb and terrible and has all sorts of issues: but it’s also cheap and easy, and often that’s good enough.

jayd16 5y ago

What about a different web browser?

jamil7 5y ago

So you can't have any platform differentiation and at the same time lose any cohesive, platform specific UI with known conventions. Instead of two major mobile vendors we end up with one or best case scenario two major browsers from one or two tech companies with enough resources to to build and maintain them.

morpheos137 5y ago
Or we could just have open standards like the web originally was and mostly still is. You can use the gmail web app from a wide range of browsers. Even Lynx in the console...It is not like you have to access a separate gmail web page for each browser you use. I don't get why people think web apps would need to lead to proprietary browser dependence. Not if they are coded for open standards, like HTML, CSS, Javascript, etc.