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Honestly? Most teams/organizations use G-Suite unless you are a finance/legal/legacy company or some entities in midwest states.

Thrymr 5y ago
That may be true for more casual users of office suites, but any organization that uses spreadsheets as a computational tool that does analysis on which the business depends uses Excel instead of Google Sheets. Certainly this is the case in finance and banking. (I am not necessarily an advocate of Excel as a computational tool, but it is used that way.) Sure, if you're a software company GSuite is good enough.
- NickNameNick 5y ago
  A few years ago, at my previous job, we did a two week trial of g-suite and o365. Our o365 was down for about half the trial period. We chose google....
- Yizahi 5y ago
  In our corp we all use MS suite. Once we've decided to track vacation in the team locally. So we've made a Google spreadsheet with like 12 rows and 365 columns for a year. It was running insanely slow, editing and scrolling it was painful. Also it lacks basic things which Excel supports since forever, I don't remember now but a lot of basic styling and formatting for cells is missing. And that's just for basic work. Import a millon line .csv file to apply a formula to it and then export - wouldn't even try in g-suite. (PS: that's way faster than creating and debugging a script to do the same thing on .csv directly).
btilly 5y ago
Or do anything with the real world like manufacturing. Or interact with other businesses a lot like recruiting does. And by "legacy" I presume you mean, "Have been around at least 30 years." Sorry to tell you, but the Walmarts of the world aren't so much legacy as established.
ubermonkey 5y ago
HILARIOUSLY wrong. Excel is so far ahead of Google's offering - or anything else in that space -- that it's ubiquitous. It's insanely powerful, and its power is accessible to nontechnical people. That's an enormous thing. Remember, spreadsheets were the original "killer app" that got PCs into the biz world. They're still a huge part of everyday life for vast numbers of workers -- and not just in the midwest as you sneeringly suggest.
- throwaway2037 5y ago
  Why was this downvoted? With the exception of "HILARIOUSLY wrong.", I agree wholeheartedly. I also didn't like the comment about the "midwest". Is Chicago not a Global Alpha city? It has one of the biggest options and futures exchanges in the world and plenty of big banks/insurance/finance companies. And Mayo Clinic is one of largest and most sophisticated hospital systems in the world. Probably has a ginormous IT budget. But, hey, it's the midwest, right?
  - toolz 5y ago
    well other than being needlessly abrassive I would say it's downvoted (although I myself didn't vote on it) because > it's ubiquitous it isn't - as I stated elsewhere I've never worked at a company where MS Office tools were a first class citizen, while almost every company I've worked at uses google docs/sheets frequently. > It's insanely powerful maybe? I mean I think if you need powerful tools excel/sheets is never the solution - they are really good at solving simple problems easily - there are better fits for problems that need "insane power" > its power is accessible to nontechnical people very fair point - the on ramp gets nontechnical people to become technical, but it is _not_ easier to do complex things in excel/sheets than in a general purpose programming language. It's just more accessible. > as you sneeringly suggest. starting and ending with a point to make the parent sounds malicious when no malice needed to be interpreted. I think I will go back and downvote now. It's simply not a conversation that warrants much of any emotional response. We're talking about boring tools here.
    - ubermonkey 5y ago
tekknik 5y ago
I’m a consultant for large companies, exactly one of the last 5 projects i’ve been on used gsuite. Throughout my career I’ve seen gsuite used at 3 of some 30 companies. Where do you get this idea that everybody wants and loves to use Google software?

Thrymr 5y ago

That may be true for more casual users of office suites, but any organization that uses spreadsheets as a computational tool that does analysis on which the business depends uses Excel instead of Google Sheets. Certainly this is the case in finance and banking. (I am not necessarily an advocate of Excel as a computational tool, but it is used that way.) Sure, if you're a software company GSuite is good enough.

NickNameNick 5y ago
A few years ago, at my previous job, we did a two week trial of g-suite and o365. Our o365 was down for about half the trial period. We chose google....
Yizahi 5y ago
In our corp we all use MS suite. Once we've decided to track vacation in the team locally. So we've made a Google spreadsheet with like 12 rows and 365 columns for a year. It was running insanely slow, editing and scrolling it was painful. Also it lacks basic things which Excel supports since forever, I don't remember now but a lot of basic styling and formatting for cells is missing. And that's just for basic work. Import a millon line .csv file to apply a formula to it and then export - wouldn't even try in g-suite. (PS: that's way faster than creating and debugging a script to do the same thing on .csv directly).

btilly 5y ago

Or do anything with the real world like manufacturing. Or interact with other businesses a lot like recruiting does. And by "legacy" I presume you mean, "Have been around at least 30 years." Sorry to tell you, but the Walmarts of the world aren't so much legacy as established.

ubermonkey 5y ago

HILARIOUSLY wrong. Excel is so far ahead of Google's offering - or anything else in that space -- that it's ubiquitous. It's insanely powerful, and its power is accessible to nontechnical people. That's an enormous thing. Remember, spreadsheets were the original "killer app" that got PCs into the biz world. They're still a huge part of everyday life for vast numbers of workers -- and not just in the midwest as you sneeringly suggest.

throwaway2037 5y ago
Why was this downvoted? With the exception of "HILARIOUSLY wrong.", I agree wholeheartedly. I also didn't like the comment about the "midwest". Is Chicago not a Global Alpha city? It has one of the biggest options and futures exchanges in the world and plenty of big banks/insurance/finance companies. And Mayo Clinic is one of largest and most sophisticated hospital systems in the world. Probably has a ginormous IT budget. But, hey, it's the midwest, right?
- toolz 5y ago
  well other than being needlessly abrassive I would say it's downvoted (although I myself didn't vote on it) because > it's ubiquitous it isn't - as I stated elsewhere I've never worked at a company where MS Office tools were a first class citizen, while almost every company I've worked at uses google docs/sheets frequently. > It's insanely powerful maybe? I mean I think if you need powerful tools excel/sheets is never the solution - they are really good at solving simple problems easily - there are better fits for problems that need "insane power" > its power is accessible to nontechnical people very fair point - the on ramp gets nontechnical people to become technical, but it is _not_ easier to do complex things in excel/sheets than in a general purpose programming language. It's just more accessible. > as you sneeringly suggest. starting and ending with a point to make the parent sounds malicious when no malice needed to be interpreted. I think I will go back and downvote now. It's simply not a conversation that warrants much of any emotional response. We're talking about boring tools here.
  - ubermonkey 5y ago

tekknik 5y ago

I’m a consultant for large companies, exactly one of the last 5 projects i’ve been on used gsuite. Throughout my career I’ve seen gsuite used at 3 of some 30 companies. Where do you get this idea that everybody wants and loves to use Google software?