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From the last link: "Conclusions: This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic di
by rossdavidh 5y ago
From the last link: "Conclusions: This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant."
Note the "longer lasting and stronger".
- Godel_unicode 5y agoGP is not disputing that. They're pointing out that we know this, but not why.
- __blockcipher__ 5y agoIt might seem small but they only said it was longer lasting, not that it was stronger: > is longer lasting than from the vaccine
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- IgorPartola 5y agoHmm. This smells of literal survivor bias. The group that survives the delta variant is a smaller set than all who got infected while all vaccinated persons survived, even ones that wouldn’t have survived without the vaccine.
- dnautics 5y agoWhile true, it's not by much; mortality for covid-19 is less than a percent of all hospitalizations, iirc.
- IgorPartola 5y agoRight. The point of the vaccines is to not have to find out if you are in the 99% who survive Covid or the 1% who don’t.
- inter_netuser 5y agoand if virus keeps mutating... twice-annual booster shots all over the earth? I really hope we don't end up with a Marek's disease, but in humans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek%27s_disease#Prevention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek%27s_disease#Prevention
- kbenson 5y agoIt seems more likely that after we've all developed some immunity to it and some variants, we'll have some level of resistance to what most strains bring to bear, and so milder and less lethal, like existing colds (also a coronavirus...) and flus.
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- jacquesm 5y agoYou make it sound as if that's good news.
- IgorPartola 5y agoIf this was missed in the design of the study, why would it be good news?
- mynegation 5y agoI do not think you remember it correctly. Cumulatively mortality is around 2% and sometimes higher of all known cases.
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- rossdavidh 5y agoI wasn't impressed by your point at first, but it occurs to me that the vaccination rate was way higher among older people, at least in the U.S. and probably in many countries. On the other hand, the rate of those who got covid-19 was higher among younger people. So, you may have a point there.