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So how come a fork was necessary?

by Y_Y 5y ago

ozarkerD 5y ago
Devs on yt-dl have been inactive for a few months iirc
- julienpalard 5y ago
  Does not look inactive to me: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/graphs/contributors https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/graphs/contributors
  - nannal 5y ago
    Jun 29, 2021 – Aug 26, 2021: 0 commits
  - rtkwe 5y ago
    It does look like there's little activity in the last couple months and none in the last almost 2 months.
- MrDOS 5y ago
  For longer than that. 846 open PRs, 3.7k open issues. And this long predates the GitHub takedown debacle. This isn't to say that they're totally AWOL: they do a really good job keeping on top of the boring break/fix work, like keeping on top of the ever-changing interfaces of video providers. But they're very conservative about expanding functionality, and even fixing more minor bugs.
  - nonbirithm 5y ago
    And they've closed many issues as duplicates with no further explanation given: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/23860 https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/23860
    - rovr138 5y ago
      Have they been duplicates?
      - nonbirithm 5y ago
        The linked issue contains several issues describing the same problem, but what I meant to say was that which duplicate they were of was never made clear. The maintainers seemed to assume that everyone knew what it was and never provided a link to the original issue.
- SevenSigs 5y ago
  my youtube-dl still works fine for youtube.com but I haven't tested many other supported sites...
- the-dude 5y ago
  Wasn't the repo taken down for a while?
  - banana_giraffe 5y ago
    Yes, but it was brought back on November 16, 2020, and there was plenty of activity after that, till this recent drought of dead air.
kunagi7 5y ago
youtube-dl has been inactive for the last 2 months. Most things still work but support of different services is something that needs daily updates to not break. Even if most popular websites still work, pages like Newgrounds are breaking. There's 3.7k open issues right now and nothing gets merged [0]. [0] https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues
- krick 5y ago
  It's really stupid that this stuff still happens. I mean, youtube-dl main devs are stepping away, it's understandable. But it would be so much more convenient for everyone, if it was passed over to somebody, who is still interested (yt-dlp devs?) instead of ending up as a bunch of forks nobody knows about, and a dead project everyone continues to use. Just think about how many apps and scripts have youtube-dl hardcoded somewhere in them.
- executesorder66 5y ago
  But still, why a fork? Why not contribute to the original project? Why not ask for maintainership if you need it?
  - slightwinder 5y ago
    Asking is meaningless if nobody answers.

So how come a fork was necessary?

by Y_Y 5y ago

So how come a fork was necessary?

ozarkerD 5y ago

Devs on yt-dl have been inactive for a few months iirc

julienpalard 5y ago
Does not look inactive to me: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/graphs/contributors https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/graphs/contributors
- nannal 5y ago
  Jun 29, 2021 – Aug 26, 2021: 0 commits
- rtkwe 5y ago
  It does look like there's little activity in the last couple months and none in the last almost 2 months.
MrDOS 5y ago
For longer than that. 846 open PRs, 3.7k open issues. And this long predates the GitHub takedown debacle. This isn't to say that they're totally AWOL: they do a really good job keeping on top of the boring break/fix work, like keeping on top of the ever-changing interfaces of video providers. But they're very conservative about expanding functionality, and even fixing more minor bugs.
- nonbirithm 5y ago
  And they've closed many issues as duplicates with no further explanation given: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/23860 https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/23860
  - rovr138 5y ago
    Have they been duplicates?
    - nonbirithm 5y ago
      The linked issue contains several issues describing the same problem, but what I meant to say was that which duplicate they were of was never made clear. The maintainers seemed to assume that everyone knew what it was and never provided a link to the original issue.
SevenSigs 5y ago
my youtube-dl still works fine for youtube.com but I haven't tested many other supported sites...
the-dude 5y ago
Wasn't the repo taken down for a while?
- banana_giraffe 5y ago
  Yes, but it was brought back on November 16, 2020, and there was plenty of activity after that, till this recent drought of dead air.

kunagi7 5y ago

youtube-dl has been inactive for the last 2 months. Most things still work but support of different services is something that needs daily updates to not break. Even if most popular websites still work, pages like Newgrounds are breaking. There's 3.7k open issues right now and nothing gets merged [0]. [0] https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues

krick 5y ago
It's really stupid that this stuff still happens. I mean, youtube-dl main devs are stepping away, it's understandable. But it would be so much more convenient for everyone, if it was passed over to somebody, who is still interested (yt-dlp devs?) instead of ending up as a bunch of forks nobody knows about, and a dead project everyone continues to use. Just think about how many apps and scripts have youtube-dl hardcoded somewhere in them.
executesorder66 5y ago
But still, why a fork? Why not contribute to the original project? Why not ask for maintainership if you need it?
- slightwinder 5y ago
  Asking is meaningless if nobody answers.