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> CoreOS seems to be targeting cloud/kubernetes as implementation characteristics, and my "one man shop" gig is the anti-that. That makes a lot of sense. > My

by krn 5y ago

> CoreOS seems to be targeting cloud/kubernetes as implementation characteristics, and my "one man shop" gig is the anti-that. That makes a lot of sense. > My "day job" uses rhel, and with the recent CentOS end-of-life debacle I'd like to stay both FOSS and .rpm-compatible with rhel. Most people have entirely missed the point of CentOS Stream[1], and even the founder of Rocky Linux has recently admitted that[2]. If CentOS Stream is going to be just a FOSS upstream for RHEL, will you still pick Fedora Server over it? [1] https://medium.com/swlh/centos-stream-why-its-awesome-5c45d944fb22 https://medium.com/swlh/centos-stream-why-its-awesome-5c45d9... [2] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/09/centos_stream_greg_kurtzer https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/09/centos_stream_greg_ku...

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| If CentOS Stream is going to be just a FOSS upstream for RHEL, will you still pick Fedora Server over it? Yes, but only because Fedora Server is (also/even more) a FOSS upstream for RHEL. Doing something that isn't Fedora (Workstation/Server) is "one more thing", however small, and I'd rather spend the brain tokens elsewhere. If it 10x'ed my app I'd do it, but I can't imagine it would. Thanks for the links, I wasn't so mad at CentOS Stream the product itself per se, I think it's a valid product / change to the old model. My biggest issue is the changing of the promises - the supported life of the product changed in-production. That's a big no-no to me. Fedora (upstream) requires you to keep up, but at least it doesn't make promises that it won't keep.
- krn 5y ago
  Thanks for the detailed answers. I have been using Fedora Workstation for a while now, and I am trying to pick the best single-server OS for all my future projects. Since Fedora is now a direct upstream for CentOS Stream – and CentOS Stream 9 is basically a LTS version of Fedora 34[1] – I am leaning towards CentOS Stream. In fact, CentOS Stream might now even make sense as a stable desktop OS, and as a better alternative to Ubuntu LTS. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25373050 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25373050

by krn 5y ago

second--shift 5y ago

| If CentOS Stream is going to be just a FOSS upstream for RHEL, will you still pick Fedora Server over it? Yes, but only because Fedora Server is (also/even more) a FOSS upstream for RHEL. Doing something that isn't Fedora (Workstation/Server) is "one more thing", however small, and I'd rather spend the brain tokens elsewhere. If it 10x'ed my app I'd do it, but I can't imagine it would. Thanks for the links, I wasn't so mad at CentOS Stream the product itself per se, I think it's a valid product / change to the old model. My biggest issue is the changing of the promises - the supported life of the product changed in-production. That's a big no-no to me. Fedora (upstream) requires you to keep up, but at least it doesn't make promises that it won't keep.

krn 5y ago
Thanks for the detailed answers. I have been using Fedora Workstation for a while now, and I am trying to pick the best single-server OS for all my future projects. Since Fedora is now a direct upstream for CentOS Stream – and CentOS Stream 9 is basically a LTS version of Fedora 34[1] – I am leaning towards CentOS Stream. In fact, CentOS Stream might now even make sense as a stable desktop OS, and as a better alternative to Ubuntu LTS. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25373050 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25373050