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"the longstanding culture war between left and right" ...by which you must mean the "culture war" that only the right wing seems to know or care about. It is
by betterunix2 5y ago
"the longstanding culture war between left and right"
...by which you must mean the "culture war" that only the right wing seems to know or care about. It is not really "between" the left and right as much as it is a right-wing concept that people on the left almost universally roll their eyes at (or fall into the trap of actually responding to right-wing agitation).
"Neither side has to do any thinking"
Except that, as you point out, one side is responding to scientific results indicating a serious and growing problem, while the other is not. One side is thinking, or at worst dependent on a group of people who at least try to push their personal biases out of the way when they are thinking. The other side reflexively calls all of it some combination of "socialist," "hoax," or "government takeover," without even acknowledging the existence of a problem.
Yes, I know the downvotes are coming for this, but the fact is that the Republican party has stopped even trying. You can be pro-oil-company and also be pro-reducing-carbon-emissions. Where are the Republican proposals to develop industrial-scale carbon capture to offset all those tailpipe and smokestack emissions? Carbon capture could have been an entirely new industry for oil companies to expand into, growing their businesses while reducing net carbon emissions. Instead Republicans lined up behind someone who declared climate change to be a Chinese hoax and stopped even suggesting alternatives to the Democrats' proposed solutions.
- jfengel 5y agoI'm infected with that same consolation-seeking attitude that so many left-centrists show: "Always admit your own side's weaknesses." So I can't avoid acknowledging that I do see a certain amount of culture-warrioring on the left, and a lot of people arriving at the right answer for the wrong reasons. I do that even though the things you point out are undeniable and obvious. The Republican party has stopped trying. They know perfectly well that even their nominal "centrists" are always going to side with their lunatic fringe, even as I can't control the impulse to limit my own (and earning their ire in the process). I'm completely aware that almost every post I make with even the slightest hint of progressivism is going to be downvoted. (I'm stunned that my above post is currently sitting at +3, though I've little doubt it will be down below zero by morning.) And yet... I grew up talking at a time when we were entitled to differences of opinion but not differences of fact. And I just can't seem to shake the way that pushed me to seek accommodations, to trust that the truth was the best way to argue and seek a compromise we could all live with. It's been a very long time since I've believed that -- over a decade. But the habits are hard to break.