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Not sure of the point of this comment, other than textbook whataboutism. Yes, the situation with the Native Americans wrt the expansion of European settlement

Not sure of the point of this comment, other than textbook whataboutism. Yes, the situation with the Native Americans wrt the expansion of European settlement in the Americas is similar. At the same time, chattel slavery was widespread and common amongst most nations in the world. Should we tolerate a nation today having slavery because it was a thing for us previously?

sangnoir 5y ago
The United States governement is not honoring its treaties with the native peoples to this day. This is not just an artifact of the past, but an ongoing injustice. https://www.history.com/news/native-american-broken-treaties https://www.history.com/news/native-american-broken-treaties
- sillyquiet 5y ago
  Sure, ok that sucks. Still not sure why this is the topic of conversation in an article about the CCP treatment of a conquered nation.
  - sangnoir 5y ago
    You don't see any links with successive US governments treatment of conquered (first) nations? To borrow a Canadian phrase. I think there is value in deep consideration of patterns across time and political ideology, and perhaps draw informed generalizations on certain societal failure modes.
aww_dang 5y ago
Judging the past by the standards of the present is problematic at best and regressive in the worst case. The best examples of the human condition represent a desire to improve on our mistakes. Because we are imperfect, those with the will to do so must always be striving for improvement. If we appeal to this erroneous view of history, what will future generations be able say of us under the same logic? If we subscribe to this flawed logic, which past atrocities are not justified to be repeated today?
tablespoon 5y ago
> Not sure of the point of this comment, other than textbook whataboutism. And mission accomplished. Almost all the comments in the top 50% of the page right now aren't talking about the topic of the OP, but rather the distraction from it.

sangnoir 5y ago

The United States governement is not honoring its treaties with the native peoples to this day. This is not just an artifact of the past, but an ongoing injustice. https://www.history.com/news/native-american-broken-treaties https://www.history.com/news/native-american-broken-treaties

sillyquiet 5y ago
Sure, ok that sucks. Still not sure why this is the topic of conversation in an article about the CCP treatment of a conquered nation.
- sangnoir 5y ago
  You don't see any links with successive US governments treatment of conquered (first) nations? To borrow a Canadian phrase. I think there is value in deep consideration of patterns across time and political ideology, and perhaps draw informed generalizations on certain societal failure modes.

aww_dang 5y ago

Judging the past by the standards of the present is problematic at best and regressive in the worst case. The best examples of the human condition represent a desire to improve on our mistakes. Because we are imperfect, those with the will to do so must always be striving for improvement. If we appeal to this erroneous view of history, what will future generations be able say of us under the same logic? If we subscribe to this flawed logic, which past atrocities are not justified to be repeated today?

tablespoon 5y ago

> Not sure of the point of this comment, other than textbook whataboutism. And mission accomplished. Almost all the comments in the top 50% of the page right now aren't talking about the topic of the OP, but rather the distraction from it.