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It gets even more complex when you look at the history. The Yuan dynasty were ruled by the Mongolians. The Mongolians were devout Buddhists and revered the Tib
by hosh 5y ago
It gets even more complex when you look at the history.
The Yuan dynasty were ruled by the Mongolians. The Mongolians were devout Buddhists and revered the Tibetan Buddhists. The search for reincarnated Tulkas by the Tibetan Buddhists would extend into the Mongolian regions. The imperial family gave a lot of autonomy to Tibet.
The last Imperial dynasty, Qing, was ruled by Manchurians. The Manchurians were a foreign, non-Han ethnic minority, and the imperial family were also devout Buddhists. The Qin emperors gave the Tibetan region autonomy, though they asserted state power by changing the selection process of the lamas back in the late 1800s.
My point is that, even if I disagree with how the CCP is wiping out the Tibetan heritage, this is a outgrowth of centuries of interactions, religion, and politics in that region.
I could also talk about the many ethnic groups in Napal and Himalayan regions, from which the Tibetan Buddhists assimilated many of the shamanic traditions of the region. From those Himalayan shamans perspective, the "lamaists" ganked their traditions and practiced them for the betterment of themselves rather than the betterment of the community. (From the Tibetan Buddhist perspective, those practices were reified within the View of Mahayana, for the betterment of all sentient beings).
- actuator 5y ago> I could also talk about the many ethnic groups in Napal and Himalayan regions, from which the Tibetan Buddhists assimilated many of the shamanic traditions of the region. From those Himalayan shamans perspective, the "lamaists" ganked their traditions and practiced them for the betterment of themselves rather than the betterment of the community. Even if this is true, it doesn't make what CCP is doing there right. Change can happen from within without a need of a foreign invading force forcing their own philosophy on these people.
- kuraudo 5y agoUltimately, it will be less about what is 'right' and more about 'well it happened so long ago in the past and there is nothing we can do about it now' See the current plight of the Native Americans for what I fear will be the template for decades to come with other minorities.
- justicezyx 5y ago> the imperial family were also devout Buddhists. That is mostly a political gesture to rule Tibet under the qing empire.
- MomoXenosaga 5y agoJust imagine if woke people invented a time machine. How would they figure out who's the oppressed that deserves to be saved?
- drocer88 5y ago"the imperial family were also devout Buddhists." Do you have a link for this?
- hosh 5y agoThis was the era I was referring to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Urn https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Urn I was wrong about the dates. It was late 1700s not late 1800s. This paper is the one I read. It is a book review: https://academia.edu/resource/work/40611694 https://academia.edu/resource/work/40611694 The book being reviewed is titled, Forging the Golden Urn: the Qing Empire and the Politics of Reincarnation in Tibet. Max Oidtmann