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This sounds really cool. When you say 'around you', what kind of radius are we talking?

by CSSer 5y ago

rtkwe 5y ago
Hard to answer that it depends on so much; the quality of the rx you're using, the antenna and your local environment (open field? wooded area? valley? top of a hill?).
sosborn 5y ago
It really depends on the environment around you. I live deep in valley, so my range is pretty limited to line of sight.
ambientenv 5y ago
You may be able to find out more information, including instructions on assembling your own ground station, at Flightaware - https://flightaware.com/adsb/piaware/build/ https://flightaware.com/adsb/piaware/build/
jjwiseman 5y ago
As others have said, it depends on terrain, your antenna, the altitude of the aircraft, etc. But generally, 50-60 miles is pretty easy with almost any setup. I have an ADS-B antenna mounted on my roof that feeds into a filter and an amp, and I get less than 50 miles in some directions (because of mountains) and more than 150 miles in other directions (over the ocean). Here's a map of my coverage (any altitude), with range rings every 50 miles: https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallofhair/51403416502 https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallofhair/51403416502 My coverage for altitudes up to 10,000 feet: https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallofhair/51404165241 https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallofhair/51404165241 It's radio, so nothing's guaranteed. Those maps show the maximum ranges at which I picked up any aircraft in that direction over a couple months, so they're kind of a best-case, showing when conditions possibly happened to be perfect. I also have a dead zone just around my house, because my gain is configured to prioritize range. Lots of tradeoffs in RF. There's a site (with an impossible-to-remember name) that can predict antenna range for you (it's not obvious how to use it; Try "New panorama", then "Up in the Air"): http://www.heywhatsthat.com/ http://www.heywhatsthat.com/ Here's what it shows for me. The blue ring is 40,000 feet altitude and the orange ring is 10,000 feet altitude: https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallofhair/51404944889 https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallofhair/51404944889
- slobiwan 5y ago
  How do you get that footprint plot? I'm using dump1090-fa and don't see it
  - slobiwan 5y ago
    To answer my own question, in case others are interested: https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/how-do-you-create-a-coverage-map/29563/6 https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/how-do-you-create-a-co...
tjohns 5y ago
It depends on your location, antenna, and the aircraft's elevation, but in the bay area I'll often pick up aircraft all the way out to Sacramento. Sometimes quite a bit further. Of course, the higher the aircraft the further you can "see" them. Most of the traffic I see is within 45 miles (especially low flying GA traffic), but I'll still pick up the occasional high altitude aircraft at 100+ miles out.
TaylorAlexander 5y ago
It’s very fun! I use it to monitor for low flying aircraft around a farm where I am doing some drone experiments. The legal drone limit in my area is 400 feet above ground level and near the hills some aircraft fly pretty low, so I’m going to ground the drone any time an aircraft is nearby that is not above 10kft.
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  I highly recommend not relying on SDR ADS-B reception alone and also checking online data systems for ADS-B that also use multilateration to track aircraft using their transponder when they aren’t ADS-B capable. Otherwise you might be operating under the assumption there are no contacts in your working airspace when there is aircraft present but not announcing their location. https://flightaware.com/adsb/mlat/ https://flightaware.com/adsb/mlat/
  - ericbarrett 5y ago
    You need both data sources—a number of planes are “delisted” from the commercial trackers and won’t show up, but they still broadcast ADS-B. You can find partial lists of such registrations through a keen Google search.
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    - toomuchtodo 5y ago
      https://www.adsbexchange.com/ https://www.adsbexchange.com/ does not blacklist or delist aircraft tail numbers fwiw.
  - TaylorAlexander 5y ago
    Sounds like a good idea. Thanks for the suggestion.
    - toomuchtodo 5y ago
BuildTheRobots 5y ago
160 miles with a £6 rtlsdr and an antenna I bodged out of coax. Its painfully easy. Also have a nosy at POCSAG - there's still a little bit left in the UK.

This sounds really cool. When you say 'around you', what kind of radius are we talking?

by CSSer 5y ago

This sounds really cool. When you say 'around you', what kind of radius are we talking?

Hard to answer that it depends on so much; the quality of the rx you're using, the antenna and your local environment (open field? wooded area? valley? top of a hill?).

sosborn 5y ago

It really depends on the environment around you. I live deep in valley, so my range is pretty limited to line of sight.

ambientenv 5y ago

You may be able to find out more information, including instructions on assembling your own ground station, at Flightaware - https://flightaware.com/adsb/piaware/build/ https://flightaware.com/adsb/piaware/build/

jjwiseman 5y ago

As others have said, it depends on terrain, your antenna, the altitude of the aircraft, etc. But generally, 50-60 miles is pretty easy with almost any setup. I have an ADS-B antenna mounted on my roof that feeds into a filter and an amp, and I get less than 50 miles in some directions (because of mountains) and more than 150 miles in other directions (over the ocean). Here's a map of my coverage (any altitude), with range rings every 50 miles: https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallofhair/51403416502 https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallofhair/51403416502 My coverage for altitudes up to 10,000 feet: https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallofhair/51404165241 https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallofhair/51404165241 It's radio, so nothing's guaranteed. Those maps show the maximum ranges at which I picked up any aircraft in that direction over a couple months, so they're kind of a best-case, showing when conditions possibly happened to be perfect. I also have a dead zone just around my house, because my gain is configured to prioritize range. Lots of tradeoffs in RF. There's a site (with an impossible-to-remember name) that can predict antenna range for you (it's not obvious how to use it; Try "New panorama", then "Up in the Air"): http://www.heywhatsthat.com/ http://www.heywhatsthat.com/ Here's what it shows for me. The blue ring is 40,000 feet altitude and the orange ring is 10,000 feet altitude: https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallofhair/51404944889 https://www.flickr.com/photos/wallofhair/51404944889

slobiwan 5y ago
How do you get that footprint plot? I'm using dump1090-fa and don't see it
- slobiwan 5y ago
  To answer my own question, in case others are interested: https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/how-do-you-create-a-coverage-map/29563/6 https://discussions.flightaware.com/t/how-do-you-create-a-co...

tjohns 5y ago

It depends on your location, antenna, and the aircraft's elevation, but in the bay area I'll often pick up aircraft all the way out to Sacramento. Sometimes quite a bit further. Of course, the higher the aircraft the further you can "see" them. Most of the traffic I see is within 45 miles (especially low flying GA traffic), but I'll still pick up the occasional high altitude aircraft at 100+ miles out.

TaylorAlexander 5y ago

It’s very fun! I use it to monitor for low flying aircraft around a farm where I am doing some drone experiments. The legal drone limit in my area is 400 feet above ground level and near the hills some aircraft fly pretty low, so I’m going to ground the drone any time an aircraft is nearby that is not above 10kft.

toomuchtodo 5y ago
I highly recommend not relying on SDR ADS-B reception alone and also checking online data systems for ADS-B that also use multilateration to track aircraft using their transponder when they aren’t ADS-B capable. Otherwise you might be operating under the assumption there are no contacts in your working airspace when there is aircraft present but not announcing their location. https://flightaware.com/adsb/mlat/ https://flightaware.com/adsb/mlat/
- ericbarrett 5y ago
  You need both data sources—a number of planes are “delisted” from the commercial trackers and won’t show up, but they still broadcast ADS-B. You can find partial lists of such registrations through a keen Google search.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
  - toomuchtodo 5y ago
    https://www.adsbexchange.com/ https://www.adsbexchange.com/ does not blacklist or delist aircraft tail numbers fwiw.
- TaylorAlexander 5y ago
  Sounds like a good idea. Thanks for the suggestion.
  - toomuchtodo 5y ago

BuildTheRobots 5y ago

160 miles with a £6 rtlsdr and an antenna I bodged out of coax. Its painfully easy. Also have a nosy at POCSAG - there's still a little bit left in the UK.