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Out of curiosity, what's the $10,000,000 product?
by iyn 5y ago
Out of curiosity, what's the $10,000,000 product?
- 11thEarlOfMar 5y agoAs parent indicated, they are machines that make chips.
- iyn 5y agoThanks for clarification.
- HenryKissinger 5y agoHow were the chip-making machines made before there were chip-making machines? Can't chip-making machines be made without chips? Yes. The very first one, at least, was made like that.
- tedunangst 5y agoNobody wants the chips made by the chipless chip making machines.
- kragen 5y agoHow many chips could a chipless chip making machine make if a chipless chip making machine could chip chipping chips?
- wongarsu 5y agoThe first chip-making machines were made in the 60s. Sure, we can make 60 year old chip designs without any modern technology, but what for?
- bagacrap 5y agoor was made with a handmade chip
- reassembled 5y agoWe need Hamdmade Hero for chip making.
- acomjean 5y agoMy partner designed computer chips. My understanding is that as you design more powerful chips you use those chips to design more and more powerful chips. Some older 8bit cpus now have kits where you can make them from components (20x slower and many times larger…) https://monster6502.com/ https://monster6502.com/
- mensetmanusman 5y agoIf all the chip making machines were destroyed and we couldn’t repurpose chips due to DRM, we would have to redo everything again.
- acchow 5y agoBootstrapping the second time is much easier
- bcrl 5y agoVenor Vinge's The Children of the Sky is hard sci-fi touches on this issue of how to bootstrap a civilization to the point where the technology necessary to restore a highly advanced spaceship becomes available. Humanity will need this skill if we are ever able to venture out of our solar system.
- dgolds 5y agoAlso https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Stone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Stone
- SturgeonsLaw 5y agoI've played enough survival games to know that all you need to do is fashion a pickaxe out of stone and wood, use it to mine some metal, build a forge, and everything just snowballs from there
- BizarroLand 5y agoFor instance, knowing that Corn doesn't supply absorbable niacin without nixtamalizaion, and diets dependent on corn tend to have large bouts of pellagra, is something that took hundreds of years to work out. Walking into a corn fed post-apocalyptic future knowing that soaking your corn in ash water and hulling it prevents pellagra and improves the viability of your group is some handy knowledge. This is also why rebuilding a web page after deleting it is so much faster the second time around. You've solved problems on the first go round that weren't apparent when you started.
- 35fbe7d3d5b9 5y agoIgnoring the other answers, I'll give an analogy I like: the same way the Go compiler is written entirely in Go!
- gowld 5y agoSoftware analogy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrapping_(compilers) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrapping_(compilers)
- petra 5y agoWhy do they need 100,000 of the same part in a 10M$ machine?
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- mywittyname 5y agoI don't think they need 100k per machine. I think the comment is saying they would buy them in batches of 100k from the supplier. It's not crazy that a complicated bit of machinery has a few thousand individual chips in each one.
- 11thEarlOfMar 5y agoOne $10,000,000 machine uses about 1000 of these chips.
- vdfs 5y agoIf you don't mind answering, what type of chips?
- 11thEarlOfMar 5y ago24 volt digital output drivers. We're also getting crushed on Xilinx FPGAs, certain Cypress CPUs, AD MUXes, Relay switches... It's something new every week.
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- TearsInTheRain 5y agoSounds military