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> This problem is so much more complicated than just blaming a few evil CEOs. That's a good point. I'd say it is universal greed, but the vast amount of power

> This problem is so much more complicated than just blaming a few evil CEOs. That's a good point. I'd say it is universal greed, but the vast amount of power is concentrated in the hands of a few who do anything to preserve it. Perhaps we need to look at others to blame... The industrial revolution opened the floodgates for greed among all types of CEOs/Presidents that ran faster than the law or science could keep up. Although I doubt the blighted factory towns in England that lived under perpetual smog darkness were like "Sure, this is OK for the environment." The baby boom? Everyone wanted to live in suburbs, which required cars, roads, tires, gasoline, oil? American's sense of entitlement? "I deserve more and I'm going to take it?" Let's be honest, most americans are greedy seflish bunch who think "Well, this one little thing isn't going to hurt anyone this time..." x 1,000,000 instances. It's probably just the fruition of Manifest Destiny: man's toxic urge to conquer and oppress: only the strong survive, winner take all, yadda yadda yadda. When is the last time you heard a leader (with actual power!!!) say, "Hey, wouldn't it be great if we were all just nice to each other?" ... And that guy was nailed to a tree...

qeternity 5y ago
> The industrial revolution opened the floodgates for greed among all types of CEOs/Presidents It's not that easy. There would be no failed/struggling businesses otherwise. CEOs would just will their enterprises into success. > The baby boom? Everyone wanted to live in suburbs, which required cars, roads, tires, gasoline, oil? Now we're talking. Those greedy CEOs are just people. Greedy people like everyone else. A handful of greedy CEOs didn't force billions of people to collectively emit 1.5 trillion tons of CO2. Solving the problem requires giving these people an alternative. This isn't some attempt at absolving whatever issues people have categorically with CEOs, rather just a realistic take on what needs to happen to unfuck the planet.
- SavantIdiot 5y ago
  > A handful of greedy CEOs didn't force billions of people to collectively emit 1.5 trillion tons of CO2. Oh by golly they certainly did! They tore up public transportation, forcing people to buy cars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_consp... The suburbs could have had public transportation, but there was an active propaganda against that. Only poor people use buses, manipulating people into buying big, gas-guzzling cars by creating a demand for it. And then there is 50 years of a few CEOs suppressing evidence that this was wrecking the environment. So yes, a few evil CEOs really did work to manipulate people into ignoring their actions' consequences. I would say, given the strength of marketing and propaganda, they were indeed forced.

qeternity 5y ago

> The industrial revolution opened the floodgates for greed among all types of CEOs/Presidents It's not that easy. There would be no failed/struggling businesses otherwise. CEOs would just will their enterprises into success. > The baby boom? Everyone wanted to live in suburbs, which required cars, roads, tires, gasoline, oil? Now we're talking. Those greedy CEOs are just people. Greedy people like everyone else. A handful of greedy CEOs didn't force billions of people to collectively emit 1.5 trillion tons of CO2. Solving the problem requires giving these people an alternative. This isn't some attempt at absolving whatever issues people have categorically with CEOs, rather just a realistic take on what needs to happen to unfuck the planet.

SavantIdiot 5y ago
> A handful of greedy CEOs didn't force billions of people to collectively emit 1.5 trillion tons of CO2. Oh by golly they certainly did! They tore up public transportation, forcing people to buy cars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_consp... The suburbs could have had public transportation, but there was an active propaganda against that. Only poor people use buses, manipulating people into buying big, gas-guzzling cars by creating a demand for it. And then there is 50 years of a few CEOs suppressing evidence that this was wrecking the environment. So yes, a few evil CEOs really did work to manipulate people into ignoring their actions' consequences. I would say, given the strength of marketing and propaganda, they were indeed forced.