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Starting to get the feeling that the current prices for PC components are here to say.

by sylens 5y ago

simfoo 5y ago
My guess is also that the age of high-end graphics cards for 500€/$ has come to an end. Going to order a 3070 for 850€ now, after waiting for months
- Thaxll 5y ago
  Long gone are the days for decent $350 card.
- sylens 5y ago
  I am in need of an upgrade but having a harder and harder time justifying the expense for what is a hobby. I guess eventually my system will be old enough that I will be better off just ordering a prebuilt, where I'll get gouged a bit overall but not by some insane amount just for a GPU
  - Chilinot 5y ago
    Price of pre-built will reflect the price for components. So if the GPU price increases, so will the pre-built price.
    - lrem 5y ago
      Then again, a corporation is likely able to contract with another corporation in a way that's not disturbed by scalpers?
- thejosh 5y ago
  I had a gutfeel around 3080 launch it was going to be big, so grabbed one on launch day (had to wait for months for the local store to have stock though..). Now seeing them 2x the price. Crazy times.
- baybal2 5y ago
  1080 GTXes bough and resold on ebays for tens of times are still going strong.
vardump 5y ago
This might be the start of the end of high-end PC gaming, unless prices get back to a more reasonable level. Consoles (and phones) are very competitive and cost significantly less. Or perhaps it just causes the games to have lower performance requirements. Is integrated graphics the future of PC gaming?
- sylens 5y ago
  I think it's interesting that we have three options now for sidestepping this by streaming games and yet none of them have made much of a dent. Microsoft seems to have the best business model but you're stuck streaming the games on Game Pass, and their latency seems to be the worst in my experience. Stadia seems to have the best tech in terms of latency, but the weird "it'll only work on these certain Chromecasts" launch situation put me off it for a bit, and then there's the business model - trusting Google to honor purchases on this service in perpetuity. Luna is the one I haven't tried but seems to be going for an approach where they partner with publishers to sell catalog packs, even if they're not quite there yet.
  - automatic6131 5y ago
    The availability of the high bandwidth, low latency FTTP internet is lagging severly enough for these to have no impact. The use cases where I, a high end gaming PC owner, would use streaming services are: travelling. Except unless you visit a city center, you aren't getting 5G, and you aren't getting WiFi 6 speeds. I'm in the UK, and here my parents live, where I live and where my friends live, none have the speeds capable for it. I imagine things are even worse in 95% of the US too. Game streaming won't happen in a country unless most of the country has 100MBit down
    - lotsofpulp 5y ago
      > Game streaming won't happen in a country unless most of the country has 100MBit down Not just down, but up too with low latency and jitter.
- dangus 5y ago
philjohn 5y ago
That was my assumption - I managed to pick up a 3080 TI FE at MSRP in the UK a couple of weeks back. I would have gone for the 3080, better price/perf, but since the only ones available are AIB for the same price, or more, than the 3080 TI FE that made the decision for me.
- mhh__ 5y ago
  Where from?

Starting to get the feeling that the current prices for PC components are here to say.

by sylens 5y ago

Starting to get the feeling that the current prices for PC components are here to say.

My guess is also that the age of high-end graphics cards for 500€/$ has come to an end. Going to order a 3070 for 850€ now, after waiting for months

Thaxll 5y ago
Long gone are the days for decent $350 card.
sylens 5y ago
I am in need of an upgrade but having a harder and harder time justifying the expense for what is a hobby. I guess eventually my system will be old enough that I will be better off just ordering a prebuilt, where I'll get gouged a bit overall but not by some insane amount just for a GPU
- Chilinot 5y ago
  Price of pre-built will reflect the price for components. So if the GPU price increases, so will the pre-built price.
  - lrem 5y ago
    Then again, a corporation is likely able to contract with another corporation in a way that's not disturbed by scalpers?
thejosh 5y ago
I had a gutfeel around 3080 launch it was going to be big, so grabbed one on launch day (had to wait for months for the local store to have stock though..). Now seeing them 2x the price. Crazy times.
baybal2 5y ago
1080 GTXes bough and resold on ebays for tens of times are still going strong.

vardump 5y ago

This might be the start of the end of high-end PC gaming, unless prices get back to a more reasonable level. Consoles (and phones) are very competitive and cost significantly less. Or perhaps it just causes the games to have lower performance requirements. Is integrated graphics the future of PC gaming?

sylens 5y ago
I think it's interesting that we have three options now for sidestepping this by streaming games and yet none of them have made much of a dent. Microsoft seems to have the best business model but you're stuck streaming the games on Game Pass, and their latency seems to be the worst in my experience. Stadia seems to have the best tech in terms of latency, but the weird "it'll only work on these certain Chromecasts" launch situation put me off it for a bit, and then there's the business model - trusting Google to honor purchases on this service in perpetuity. Luna is the one I haven't tried but seems to be going for an approach where they partner with publishers to sell catalog packs, even if they're not quite there yet.
- automatic6131 5y ago
  The availability of the high bandwidth, low latency FTTP internet is lagging severly enough for these to have no impact. The use cases where I, a high end gaming PC owner, would use streaming services are: travelling. Except unless you visit a city center, you aren't getting 5G, and you aren't getting WiFi 6 speeds. I'm in the UK, and here my parents live, where I live and where my friends live, none have the speeds capable for it. I imagine things are even worse in 95% of the US too. Game streaming won't happen in a country unless most of the country has 100MBit down
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    > Game streaming won't happen in a country unless most of the country has 100MBit down Not just down, but up too with low latency and jitter.
dangus 5y ago

philjohn 5y ago

That was my assumption - I managed to pick up a 3080 TI FE at MSRP in the UK a couple of weeks back. I would have gone for the 3080, better price/perf, but since the only ones available are AIB for the same price, or more, than the 3080 TI FE that made the decision for me.

mhh__ 5y ago
Where from?