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You can be ensured or not, it depends. Honestly it’s pretty stupid to end up in ICU when something free has been offered to you in order to avoid just that, so

You can be ensured or not, it depends. Honestly it’s pretty stupid to end up in ICU when something free has been offered to you in order to avoid just that, so people should just take their responsibility.

ekianjo 5y ago
> so people should just take their responsibility. if you get a serious adverse event following a vaccination, however unlikely, who pays for your medical expenses since the link with vaccines is always denied?
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  One of the specific government programs set up for that purpose. https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp
  - ekianjo 5y ago
    thanks. this is a clear answer.
    - ceejayoz 5y ago
      It may also interest you to know that, despite claiming "the link with vaccines is always denied", the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vaccine_Injury_Compensation_Program https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vaccine_Injury_Compen... awarded compensation in 42% of resolved claims, and has paid out multiple billions. Everyone, including the vaccine manufacturers, is aware of the possibility of rare reactions. This system exists because "no one will make vaccines because a jury of twelve lay people may award a $500M penalty because little Timmy got autism despite there being no link" is a national security threat.
- QuadmasterXLII 5y ago
  Why are you emotionally invested in trying to bump up COVID’s kill count? If you can explain the motive, maybe we can find an alternate way for you to work towards that goal with fewer casualties.
  - ekianjo 5y ago
    Are you answering to a different message ?
- pfdietz 5y ago
  Do you also avoid seat belts because there are unlikely accident scenarios where they do harm?
  - ekianjo 5y ago
    Nope I am asking a simple question of who pays in this kind of situation.
    - pfdietz 5y ago
      Your health insurance, presumably. It's another argument for public health insurance. Understand that the expected benefit of getting COVID vaccines should be positive for everyone -- the expected harm from side effects should be less (often much less) than the expected harm from COVID infection. There could be public policy reasons for being generous with compensation for side effects, just to increase the vaccination rate, but I think that's a separate issue, and has more to do with the unequal distribution of benefit in a vaccinated population. It could make sense for the old to compensate the young, as the old get more benefit out of others being vaccinated.

ekianjo 5y ago

> so people should just take their responsibility. if you get a serious adverse event following a vaccination, however unlikely, who pays for your medical expenses since the link with vaccines is always denied?

ceejayoz 5y ago
One of the specific government programs set up for that purpose. https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp https://www.hrsa.gov/cicp
- ekianjo 5y ago
  thanks. this is a clear answer.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    It may also interest you to know that, despite claiming "the link with vaccines is always denied", the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vaccine_Injury_Compensation_Program https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Vaccine_Injury_Compen... awarded compensation in 42% of resolved claims, and has paid out multiple billions. Everyone, including the vaccine manufacturers, is aware of the possibility of rare reactions. This system exists because "no one will make vaccines because a jury of twelve lay people may award a $500M penalty because little Timmy got autism despite there being no link" is a national security threat.
QuadmasterXLII 5y ago
Why are you emotionally invested in trying to bump up COVID’s kill count? If you can explain the motive, maybe we can find an alternate way for you to work towards that goal with fewer casualties.
- ekianjo 5y ago
  Are you answering to a different message ?
pfdietz 5y ago
Do you also avoid seat belts because there are unlikely accident scenarios where they do harm?
- ekianjo 5y ago
  Nope I am asking a simple question of who pays in this kind of situation.
  - pfdietz 5y ago
    Your health insurance, presumably. It's another argument for public health insurance. Understand that the expected benefit of getting COVID vaccines should be positive for everyone -- the expected harm from side effects should be less (often much less) than the expected harm from COVID infection. There could be public policy reasons for being generous with compensation for side effects, just to increase the vaccination rate, but I think that's a separate issue, and has more to do with the unequal distribution of benefit in a vaccinated population. It could make sense for the old to compensate the young, as the old get more benefit out of others being vaccinated.