6 ms·

This flowchart is true for many things... even webpages: How many users actually wanted to subrscribe to your newsletter the first time they visited your page,

This flowchart is true for many things... even webpages: How many users actually wanted to subrscribe to your newsletter the first time they visited your page, before they even read the first article there? How many first-time visitors actually want to donate money? ...

quickthrower2 5y ago
How many users want to have to have the inconvenience of paying for the software too!
- denton-scratch 5y ago
  If you want users to pay for your software, put a price on it, and stop pretending it's free. Nagging pop-ups -> Close tab.
- thewebcount 5y ago
  I do. I would much rather pay than see ads or be required to give up personal information. I can understand that not everyone wants that, but I do. I also have been very disappointed with usability of FOSS to the point that I rarely consider using it anymore. So yeah, I'm happy to pay (once per version I actually use).
city41 5y ago
I don't understand this. I visit a site I've never been to before and immediately a popup takes over along these lines. Do those really convert? I can't imagine they do, but they are also everywhere so they must be effective to some degree? I feel like The Guardian's approach is better, after a while they bring up a banner down at the bottom that says (paraphrased) "hey you've read x articles, we want to stay independent, can you help us?"
- thewebcount 5y ago
  > they are also everywhere so they must be effective to some degree? I wouldn't assume that. I would bet most people enter a fake email address just to make the thing go away because they don't know you can just close most of them, or don't realize the passive aggressive "No I don't want great deals sent to my inbox every day because I hate great deals" text link is a button they can press to dismiss the dialog because they don't read it and it intentionally doesn't look like a button to discourage users from pressing (or reading) it.
Ekaros 5y ago
Or ask me for feedback. Like I haven't even used your site yet, only feedback I can give is don't ask me for feedback...

quickthrower2 5y ago

How many users want to have to have the inconvenience of paying for the software too!

denton-scratch 5y ago
If you want users to pay for your software, put a price on it, and stop pretending it's free. Nagging pop-ups -> Close tab.
thewebcount 5y ago
I do. I would much rather pay than see ads or be required to give up personal information. I can understand that not everyone wants that, but I do. I also have been very disappointed with usability of FOSS to the point that I rarely consider using it anymore. So yeah, I'm happy to pay (once per version I actually use).

city41 5y ago

I don't understand this. I visit a site I've never been to before and immediately a popup takes over along these lines. Do those really convert? I can't imagine they do, but they are also everywhere so they must be effective to some degree? I feel like The Guardian's approach is better, after a while they bring up a banner down at the bottom that says (paraphrased) "hey you've read x articles, we want to stay independent, can you help us?"

thewebcount 5y ago
> they are also everywhere so they must be effective to some degree? I wouldn't assume that. I would bet most people enter a fake email address just to make the thing go away because they don't know you can just close most of them, or don't realize the passive aggressive "No I don't want great deals sent to my inbox every day because I hate great deals" text link is a button they can press to dismiss the dialog because they don't read it and it intentionally doesn't look like a button to discourage users from pressing (or reading) it.

Ekaros 5y ago

Or ask me for feedback. Like I haven't even used your site yet, only feedback I can give is don't ask me for feedback...