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The opposite imo. Vaccines are as good as natural immunity. You can get a vaccine and risk minimal side effects or you can risk getting Covid and then risk get

by bserge 5y ago

The opposite imo. Vaccines are as good as natural immunity. You can get a vaccine and risk minimal side effects or you can risk getting Covid and then risk getting the extreme effects that put you in the hospital or ground. Guess it depends on how risk averse you are, but the end payoff is the same anyway. I do hate how people seem to shit on natural immunity as if it's obviously worse than a vaccine.

LurkingPenguin 5y ago
> Vaccines are as good as natural immunity. The study directly calls this into question: > This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. A lot of the newer data is suggesting that the B and T cell responses to natural infection are broader and more robust than those to the vaccines. Example: > Vaccination produces greater amounts of circulating antibodies than natural infection. But a new study suggests that not all memory B cells are created equal. While vaccination gives rise to memory B cells that evolve over a few weeks, natural infection births memory B cells that continue to evolve over several months, producing highly potent antibodies adept at eliminating even viral variants. https://www.rockefeller.edu/news/30919-natural-infection-versus-vaccination-differences-in-covid-antibody-responses-emerge/ https://www.rockefeller.edu/news/30919-natural-infection-ver... One interesting question is whether somebody who was vaccinated before natural infection is capable of developing B and T cells as robust and broad as those who were infected before they were vaccinated. If not, we could be in for an unfortunate situation in which lots of us are forced to constantly boost to keep antibodies circulating.

by bserge 5y ago

LurkingPenguin 5y ago

> Vaccines are as good as natural immunity. The study directly calls this into question: > This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. A lot of the newer data is suggesting that the B and T cell responses to natural infection are broader and more robust than those to the vaccines. Example: > Vaccination produces greater amounts of circulating antibodies than natural infection. But a new study suggests that not all memory B cells are created equal. While vaccination gives rise to memory B cells that evolve over a few weeks, natural infection births memory B cells that continue to evolve over several months, producing highly potent antibodies adept at eliminating even viral variants. https://www.rockefeller.edu/news/30919-natural-infection-versus-vaccination-differences-in-covid-antibody-responses-emerge/ https://www.rockefeller.edu/news/30919-natural-infection-ver... One interesting question is whether somebody who was vaccinated before natural infection is capable of developing B and T cells as robust and broad as those who were infected before they were vaccinated. If not, we could be in for an unfortunate situation in which lots of us are forced to constantly boost to keep antibodies circulating.