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This is the attitude anyone who cares about this stuff needs to adopt. Especially those with engineering, design, or documentation skills. Now is the time to g

This is the attitude anyone who cares about this stuff needs to adopt. Especially those with engineering, design, or documentation skills. Now is the time to get the open alternatives shored up, and to start creating a viable and concise pathway and ecosystem that we can recommend to “non-techies” who are looking for an alternative. That can only happen if we start using this stuff now, and commit to donating some time and effort to take the deficiencies we find in our own use and make them better. It’s fine to vent, and I hope to see people continue to call big tech out. But putting on a more positive mindset, this is actually an amazing opportunity we have to start creating the change we want to see.

istingray 5y ago
1. Ditch Apple 2. Buy the best that exists today (ie System76) 3. Give monthly critical feedback every step of the way to open source hw/sw companies and their competitors about what you really need in the next version 4. Buy a Better world Ask HN: Do you use Purism, PinePhone, or Fairphone? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28164208 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28164208 Ask HN: Do you use a Linux-first laptop? (System76, Librem, Dell XPS Dev Ed) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28216287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28216287
- nbzso 5y ago
  I successfully transformed my company from MacOS to Arch on Apple hardware. There are two computers left with Catalina for some specific workflows, in isolation from outside world. System 76 are cool, but when the time comes we will build custom PCs for work. The "aura" and "coolness" of Apple is gone. I admit that my decision to use only Apple computers in the office was irrational and tainted by emotional perception from the past. I almost puled the trigger for M1 Air and was planning to upgrade office Macbook Pro's to M1X. Not anymore.
  - istingray 5y ago
    Wow congrats, getting Macs to run Linux sounds a superhuman feat.
    - Grustaf 5y ago
      No it's really easy, I had Linux running on a 2006 model iMac and I am as far from a Linux expert as you can come.
      - istingray 5y ago
        Ah yes! My understanding is older Macs are easier. The newer T2-enabled Macs make it hard. For example wi-fi, keyboards, and trackpad don't work out of the box, lots of configuration is needed, and some things (ie microphone) simply don't work at all.
        Grustaf 5y ago
        Ah ok, makes sense. This was my first mac, things have definitely changed since then...
tekknik 5y ago
> That can only happen if we start using this stuff now, and commit to donating some time and effort to take the deficiencies we find in our own use and make them better. If, and i doubt it in any reasonable time, you can replace all of apples ecosystem, including buying / renting of DRM media i would switch. until then switching is quite a big step back. the problem is not lack of software so much as it’s lack of industry support.
- weikju 5y ago
  The industry is what got us here in the first place... we need to do this for ourselves. By us, for us.
  - tekknik 5y ago
    yea great pep talk, but go convince the various license and copyright holders to allow you to create a store to sell media on linux. this just isn’t going to happen. which means, we’re done here.

istingray 5y ago

1. Ditch Apple 2. Buy the best that exists today (ie System76) 3. Give monthly critical feedback every step of the way to open source hw/sw companies and their competitors about what you really need in the next version 4. Buy a Better world Ask HN: Do you use Purism, PinePhone, or Fairphone? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28164208 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28164208 Ask HN: Do you use a Linux-first laptop? (System76, Librem, Dell XPS Dev Ed) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28216287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28216287

nbzso 5y ago
I successfully transformed my company from MacOS to Arch on Apple hardware. There are two computers left with Catalina for some specific workflows, in isolation from outside world. System 76 are cool, but when the time comes we will build custom PCs for work. The "aura" and "coolness" of Apple is gone. I admit that my decision to use only Apple computers in the office was irrational and tainted by emotional perception from the past. I almost puled the trigger for M1 Air and was planning to upgrade office Macbook Pro's to M1X. Not anymore.
- istingray 5y ago
  Wow congrats, getting Macs to run Linux sounds a superhuman feat.
  - Grustaf 5y ago
    No it's really easy, I had Linux running on a 2006 model iMac and I am as far from a Linux expert as you can come.
    - istingray 5y ago
      Ah yes! My understanding is older Macs are easier. The newer T2-enabled Macs make it hard. For example wi-fi, keyboards, and trackpad don't work out of the box, lots of configuration is needed, and some things (ie microphone) simply don't work at all.
      - Grustaf 5y ago
        Ah ok, makes sense. This was my first mac, things have definitely changed since then...

tekknik 5y ago

> That can only happen if we start using this stuff now, and commit to donating some time and effort to take the deficiencies we find in our own use and make them better. If, and i doubt it in any reasonable time, you can replace all of apples ecosystem, including buying / renting of DRM media i would switch. until then switching is quite a big step back. the problem is not lack of software so much as it’s lack of industry support.

weikju 5y ago
The industry is what got us here in the first place... we need to do this for ourselves. By us, for us.
- tekknik 5y ago
  yea great pep talk, but go convince the various license and copyright holders to allow you to create a store to sell media on linux. this just isn’t going to happen. which means, we’re done here.