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If it's about 'not being confronted' with something you personally don't like, this can be handled at the subreddit level. Different subreddits can make their o

If it's about 'not being confronted' with something you personally don't like, this can be handled at the subreddit level. Different subreddits can make their own censorship policies and you can join the one that censors the things you don't want to see. But we are talking about censorship on the sitewide level at Reddit, which affects all communities, even ones you have no interest in. This isn't about protecting yourself from content you'd dislike, it is, as always, about preventing others from talking amongst themselves in ways you dislike, even when you're not around.

krapp 5y ago
We're talking about collective action by the users of multiple subreddits[0] demanding Reddit do something on a sitewide scale because they find this content is harming society as a whole. Let's not pretend this is a top-down issue, this is something part of the community seems to want. And nevertheless, subreddits aren't separate platforms. It's all still one big platform owned by one company. Subreddits are more like separate aisles in a supermarket - you can find frozen food in one aisle and bread in another, but the management still decides what does and doesn't go on the shelves. [0]https://old.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/pbe8nj/we_call_upon_reddit_to_take_action_against_the/ https://old.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/pbe8nj/we_cal...
- elzbardico 5y ago
  No, we are talking about a cabal of very few people that disproportionately mod a lot of subreddits that are drunk with imaginary power and acting like petty tyrants by coordinating massive attacks against other subreddits and now that they have been rebuffed by Reddit admins are trying to bring her depressing drama to hacker news and all other media. We are talking about a mob. A rabid mob far more dangerous in the long term than any idiot covid conspiracy theorist
  - rualca 5y ago
    > No, we are talking about a cabal of very few people (...) Do you have any evidence that supports your accusation? Meanwhile, the Reddit post you're commenting on has currently 140k upvotes. That post is immediately followd by the repost on/r/TIFU that has 70k. Shortly after, the post in /r/bestoff has 40k upvotes. On the second page, /r/LeopardsAteMyFace shows up with the same post with 70k upvotes. In /r/futurology that post got 27k upvotes. On the third page, /r/YouSeingThisShit shows up with 25k upvotes. I mean, how do you go from multiple subreddits on the frontpage of /r/popular with tens of thousands of upvotes to a conspiracy theory bases on the idea that all this is instead "very few people that disproportionally mod a lot of subreddits"? Do you believe these upvotes are falsified and don't reflect support? Do you believe tens of thousands of registered users mindlessly upvote these posts even though they don't agree or support the message?
    - throwawaysea 5y ago
      All of these posts on the various subreddits link to each other, encouraging brigading. It’s funny because several of these subreddits have rules against cross posting for that reason. It’s possible that 140K people in total are upvoting all of these while others are ignoring it or out of the loop. Given that the posts are touting how they represent tens of millions of users, at best 140K votes means that the community is very split over this and no censorship should be undertaken.
      - rualca 5y ago
        > All of these posts on the various subreddits link to each other, It's a common post, shared by all subreddits that adhere to the protest. Those subreddits are listed in /r/popular because tens of thousands of registered users upvote them. The top post on /r/popular this week is the post in /r/vaxhappened calling for action against misinformation, and so far is the top5 post of the past month. > It’s funny because several of these subreddits have rules against cross posting for that reason. Why do you feel it's appropriate or relevant to complain about alleged rules that may or may not exist instead of facing the fact that tens of thousands of registered users subscribing to any of the countless subreddits adhering to this protest actively supporting this message? > It’s possible that 140K people in total are upvoting all of these while others are ignoring it or out of the loop. The amount of people that may or may not be out of the loop is irrelevant. What's relevant is the tens of thousands of registered users that are actively supporting this message. I remind you that the initial thesis was that this was a conspiracy from a hand full of users. Do you actually believe this is a realistic assessment?

krapp 5y ago

We're talking about collective action by the users of multiple subreddits[0] demanding Reddit do something on a sitewide scale because they find this content is harming society as a whole. Let's not pretend this is a top-down issue, this is something part of the community seems to want. And nevertheless, subreddits aren't separate platforms. It's all still one big platform owned by one company. Subreddits are more like separate aisles in a supermarket - you can find frozen food in one aisle and bread in another, but the management still decides what does and doesn't go on the shelves. [0]https://old.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/pbe8nj/we_call_upon_reddit_to_take_action_against_the/ https://old.reddit.com/r/vaxxhappened/comments/pbe8nj/we_cal...

elzbardico 5y ago
No, we are talking about a cabal of very few people that disproportionately mod a lot of subreddits that are drunk with imaginary power and acting like petty tyrants by coordinating massive attacks against other subreddits and now that they have been rebuffed by Reddit admins are trying to bring her depressing drama to hacker news and all other media. We are talking about a mob. A rabid mob far more dangerous in the long term than any idiot covid conspiracy theorist
- rualca 5y ago
  > No, we are talking about a cabal of very few people (...) Do you have any evidence that supports your accusation? Meanwhile, the Reddit post you're commenting on has currently 140k upvotes. That post is immediately followd by the repost on/r/TIFU that has 70k. Shortly after, the post in /r/bestoff has 40k upvotes. On the second page, /r/LeopardsAteMyFace shows up with the same post with 70k upvotes. In /r/futurology that post got 27k upvotes. On the third page, /r/YouSeingThisShit shows up with 25k upvotes. I mean, how do you go from multiple subreddits on the frontpage of /r/popular with tens of thousands of upvotes to a conspiracy theory bases on the idea that all this is instead "very few people that disproportionally mod a lot of subreddits"? Do you believe these upvotes are falsified and don't reflect support? Do you believe tens of thousands of registered users mindlessly upvote these posts even though they don't agree or support the message?
  - throwawaysea 5y ago
    All of these posts on the various subreddits link to each other, encouraging brigading. It’s funny because several of these subreddits have rules against cross posting for that reason. It’s possible that 140K people in total are upvoting all of these while others are ignoring it or out of the loop. Given that the posts are touting how they represent tens of millions of users, at best 140K votes means that the community is very split over this and no censorship should be undertaken.
    - rualca 5y ago
      > All of these posts on the various subreddits link to each other, It's a common post, shared by all subreddits that adhere to the protest. Those subreddits are listed in /r/popular because tens of thousands of registered users upvote them. The top post on /r/popular this week is the post in /r/vaxhappened calling for action against misinformation, and so far is the top5 post of the past month. > It’s funny because several of these subreddits have rules against cross posting for that reason. Why do you feel it's appropriate or relevant to complain about alleged rules that may or may not exist instead of facing the fact that tens of thousands of registered users subscribing to any of the countless subreddits adhering to this protest actively supporting this message? > It’s possible that 140K people in total are upvoting all of these while others are ignoring it or out of the loop. The amount of people that may or may not be out of the loop is irrelevant. What's relevant is the tens of thousands of registered users that are actively supporting this message. I remind you that the initial thesis was that this was a conspiracy from a hand full of users. Do you actually believe this is a realistic assessment?